Members girevik Posted February 9, 2012 Members Share Posted February 9, 2012 But this 17-yr-old can play like that now: [video=youtube;aRTD12fl6Mo] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jeremy_green Posted February 9, 2012 Members Share Posted February 9, 2012 So great to see a young player with such great skill. The thing I noticed RIGHT AWAY was her pocket - bang on TIGHT rhythm. Beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members electrotar Posted February 9, 2012 Members Share Posted February 9, 2012 what you mean by pocket exactly? Playing lead lines that fit in with the flow of the ryhthm? cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JonR Posted February 9, 2012 Members Share Posted February 9, 2012 what you mean by pocket exactly? Playing lead lines that fit in with the flow of the ryhthm?cheersYes - locking right in with the beat. It's the one thing that marks out professionals from amateurs, IMO. They sound good not because of how fast they play or what brilliant ideas they have, but because their timing is solid. That's why they sound great even when playing something dead simple.It's about being in complete control of rhythm, so that you can be right on the beat most of the time, but choose to be a little early or late sometimes for a special effect. This is why metronome practice is so important. Playing along to drum tracks or rhythm tracks is also good, but it can be less clear to you when you're out of time. The metronome is better at helping you train your own internal clock, because it provides minimal timing info, forcing you to subdivide beats correctly. So a slow metronome setting is more valuable than a fast one, because it's tougher. (Although you should work with both.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted February 9, 2012 Members Share Posted February 9, 2012 The original 335 is a classic. The epitome of melodic guitar at the time. And gorgeous. Here it is for those who have never heard it. FT2qt98GFl8 Classic flow vs more evolved rhythm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Virgman Posted February 9, 2012 Members Share Posted February 9, 2012 Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members electrotar Posted February 9, 2012 Members Share Posted February 9, 2012 Yes - locking right in with the beat. It's the one thing that marks out professionals from amateurs, IMO. They sound good not because of how fast they play or what brilliant ideas they have, but because their timing is solid. That's why they sound great even when playing something dead simple.It's about being in complete control of rhythm, so that you can be right on the beat most of the time, but choose to be a little early or late sometimes for a special effect.This is why metronome practice is so important. Playing along to drum tracks or rhythm tracks is also good, but it can be less clear to you when you're out of time. The metronome is better at helping you train your own internal clock, because it provides minimal timing info, forcing you to subdivide beats correctly. So a slow metronome setting is more valuable than a fast one, because it's tougher. (Although you should work with both.) cool but to play in pocket one must know the song/ryhtm/chord progression very well before they attempt there lead play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members girevik Posted February 9, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 9, 2012 cool but to play in pocket one must know the song/ryhtm/chord progression very well before they attempt there lead play? You do need to know the entire tune (rhythm, chords, melody) before you are ready to record a solo over a tune like that. And yes you need to be able to play the melody and chords in time with the music too, and that is where the metronome will help a lot. Aren't you in the UK? That girl and her teacher (Alex Hutchings) are. If I were you I'd find a way to take lessons with Hutchings. He clearly knows how to teach students to play like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members electrotar Posted February 9, 2012 Members Share Posted February 9, 2012 You do need to know the entire tune (rhythm, chords, melody) before you are ready to record a solo over a tune like that. And yes you need to be able to play the melody and chords in time with the music too, and that is where the metronome will help a lot.Aren't you in the UK? That girl and her teacher (Alex Hutchings) are. If I were you I'd find a way to take lessons with Hutchings. He clearly knows how to teach students to play like that. wow is that even reality, where is he and does he do lessons and how much is he gonna charge...guess I can try check google?youtube? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BydoEmpire Posted February 9, 2012 Members Share Posted February 9, 2012 Jess has some really good covers of Vai and Paul Gilbert tunes, too. It's not that she can play the super fast notes, but that the feel and details are right. She's great. Alex Hutchings is awesome, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DCurtis Posted February 9, 2012 Members Share Posted February 9, 2012 She is really good.But watching her left hand makes me feel tense.She sounds loose and relaxed, but her left hand seemsto tense. And she seems to avoid using her pinky.Not a criticism, just an observation. Kudos to the fine young lady! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DCurtis Posted February 9, 2012 Members Share Posted February 9, 2012 PS: Is Mr. Hutchings constipated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members girevik Posted February 9, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 9, 2012 wow is that even reality, where is he and does he do lessons and how much is he gonna charge...guess I can try check google?youtube? Try contacting him through the Jam Track Central website mentioned on the Youtube page: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members girevik Posted February 9, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 9, 2012 Jess has some really good covers of Vai and Paul Gilbert tunes, too. It's not that she can play the super fast notes, but that the feel and details are right. She's great. Alex Hutchings is awesome, too. I watched her Youtube cover of Guthrie Govan's "Wonderful Slippery Thing". According to the uploader, Govan himself was off-camera watching her play and grinning in approval. [video=youtube;oQmM1hZgT8U] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members girevik Posted February 9, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 9, 2012 PS: Is Mr. Hutchings constipated? Holdsworth, Metheny, etc. all make the "guitar face" too. It's the true key to guitar soloing virtuosity. But if you play strictly rhythm, you don't need the guitar face. BTW, I recall one of the criticisms of the great classical violinist Jascha Heifetz was that he was "unemotional". This was based entirely on his lack of facial expression while performing, rather than the actual sound coming out of his violin. Personally, I think Heifetz was a true badass, and I don't find his playing robotic/unemotional at all, but what do I know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DCurtis Posted February 10, 2012 Members Share Posted February 10, 2012 Zappa never made guitar face either.Didn't seem to hurt him either. Since it's the "true key to virtuosity"I'm destined to suck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members girevik Posted February 10, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 10, 2012 Zappa never made guitar face either. Didn't seem to hurt him either. Since it's the "true key to virtuosity" I'm destined to suck... Based on "Baby Snakes" I must disagree about Zappa. He made all kinds of faces onstage Actually, there is hope for you. I totally forgot about Robert Fripp! Now THAT's a badass who plays with a poker face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mosiddiqi Posted February 10, 2012 Members Share Posted February 10, 2012 Jess is fantastic!..I think I posted a vid of hers a few months ago here..I couldn't believe how mature she sounded. A terrific future awaits hopefully... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members benzem Posted February 10, 2012 Members Share Posted February 10, 2012 Talent. Us theory nerds just got showed some. Awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jeremy_green Posted February 10, 2012 Members Share Posted February 10, 2012 Talent. Us theory nerds just got showed some.Awesome. Lest we forget - MOSTLY hard freakin work! Just cause she's young, don't mean she hasn't put in her hours in the shed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mosiddiqi Posted February 10, 2012 Members Share Posted February 10, 2012 Some info on Jess: http://www.beaulieu.org.uk/biographies/page3.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted February 10, 2012 Members Share Posted February 10, 2012 PS: Is Mr. Hutchings constipated? It occurs to me these guys teach "high performance" performance instead of the more musical uh, "musical" performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members girevik Posted February 10, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 10, 2012 It occurs to me these guys teach "high performance" performance instead of the more musical uh, "musical" performance. So she's into shred and so is her teacher. Does it matter to you now? Not to me. Her cover of Carlton's classic tune was tasteful, with imo no wasted notes. That's what mainly mattered to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted February 10, 2012 Members Share Posted February 10, 2012 Nah she'll grow into whatever musician she is. Her way with 335, youthful and extraneous/superfluous. Yes that means extra notes. Well done playing in and of itself; just not a very good interpretation. Which seems to point at, The teacher. Eh... or meh ... as the spelling seems to be on the web. Mechanical chain of chops kind of delivery/attention span. High performance director maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members girevik Posted February 10, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 10, 2012 Nah she'll grow into whatever musician she is. Her way with 335, youthful and extraneous/superfluous. Yes that means extra notes. Well done playing in and of itself; just not a very good interpretation. I disagree about the extra notes, and quality of interpretation but that's cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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