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0:06 - Cm - 8 bars

0:18 - F - 4 bars

0:24 - Cm - 4 bars

0:30 - Eb6 (Cm7/Eb) 2 bars

0:33 - G5 2 bars

0:36 - F 4 bars

 

0:42 - (1st time ending) Cm7 4 bars interlude)

 

whole thing repeats, till 1:25, 2nd time ending: goes back to the Eb6 and G5, 2 bars each, then back to the Cm for a few bars before the break.

 

The break is Cm(add4): C, F and Eb notes in the lead guitar.

 

If you want to label the key, it's kind of C minor, but the F chord is major, so it's really C dorian mode.

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0:06 - Cm - 8 bars

0:18 - F - 4 bars

0:24 - Cm - 4 bars

0:30 - Eb6 (Cm7/Eb) 2 bars

0:33 - G5 2 bars

0:36 - F 4 bars


0:42 - (1st time ending) Cm7 4 bars interlude)


whole thing repeats, till 1:25, 2nd time ending: goes back to the Eb6 and G5, 2 bars each, then back to the Cm for a few bars before the break.


The break is Cm(add4): C, F and Eb notes in the lead guitar.


If you want to label the key, it's kind of C minor, but the F chord is major, so it's really C dorian mode.

 

 

Great reply... I knew it wasn't a normal key. Thanks!

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0:06 - Cm - 8 bars

0:18 - F - 4 bars

0:24 - Cm - 4 bars

0:30 - Eb6 (Cm7/Eb) 2 bars

0:33 - G5 2 bars

0:36 - F 4 bars


0:42 - (1st time ending) Cm7 4 bars interlude)


whole thing repeats, till 1:25, 2nd time ending: goes back to the Eb6 and G5, 2 bars each, then back to the Cm for a few bars before the break.


The break is Cm(add4): C, F and Eb notes in the lead guitar.


If you want to label the key, it's kind of C minor, but the F chord is major, so it's really C dorian mode.

 

 

Eb6 and G5 are keys?

 

edit: nevermind, they're chords

 

Song is in C dorian (C minor with a raised 6th degree).

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I'd call this Cmi and leave it at that. The major IV would be a sub. The V chord I'd call an incomplete Gmi. I like the G, F retrograde and am wondering if this is endemic to the grayness of dorian. (?) It's very catchy as recorded so I suppose JR s detail is warranted as is the C dorian characterization. Playing wise however I find myself adding seconds, fourths, sevenths, any cool sounding chordal or non harmonic ext, even the thirds if placed right - thinking basically three flats (accidentals welcome) and C tonic/pedal and little else in that regard. Works for me. Is this valid or just lazy?

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I'd call this Cmi and leave it at that. The major IV would be a sub. The V chord I'd call an incomplete Gmi. I like the G, F retrograde and am wondering if this is endemic to the grayness of dorian. (?) It's very catchy as recorded so I suppose JR s detail is warranted as is the C dorian characterization. Playing wise however I find myself adding seconds, fourths, sevenths, any cool sounding chordal or non harmonic ext, even the thirds if placed right - thinking basically three flats (accidentals welcome) and C tonic/pedal and little else in that regard. Works for me. Is this valid or just lazy?

I'd say 2 flats. Unless that makes anyone reading it think it's in Bb or G minor... ;)

I agree the implication of the G is minor, but I can't detect a Bb in it anywhere.

Mind you, the Eb isn't very clear in the Cm chord, only in the vocal (and the lead guitar in the break). (MyTranscribe software shows an E natural in the spectrum sometimes on the C chord, but it's a overtone of the bass.)

The F, OTOH, clearly sounds major - not just an F power chord which could stand for minor (and make the key C minor/aeolian)

I also agree about those added notes. The lead guitar itself puts an F on the Cm chord in the break, and also in the 4-bar interlude before the 2nd verse (a nice little line of added notes in that bit). I think when you have a simple chord in a groove this long, it's hard to resist adding 2nds, 4ths, 7ths.... ;)

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