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Line 6 Echo Park... any good?


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Originally posted by hangwire




well I just demo'ed one again... and this pedal sucks in my opinion...


the reverse delay doesn't do just one repeat even if the repeats knob is zero'ed... it glicthes too if you play another line after the reverse is done... it rushed a piece of the new phrase quickly in...


also, I hope there is a way to turn off the tap tempo on the thing... it was very annoying that I could tap in a shorter delay time than I could dial in with the knob
:mad:

avoid this pedal...




In relation to the "reverse delay" issue claim, thats how every reverse delay pedal works with exception to a reverse sampler.

As for the tapping less time then you could dial with a knob, ive never come across such a thing in my life...And its impossible..

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Originally posted by hangwire


avoid this pedal...



no.. buy this pedal now!:)
amazing sounds in it. the ability to have the delay sound digital, tape, or analog is awesome. the modulation sounds are bad ass too. Trails is cool feature, that lets the delay trail off when you turn off the effect, so there isnt an abrupt end of repeats.

I would really see if you can try it out see what you think, but both me and the other guitarist in my band use it, and are both happy with it.

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Originally posted by nosferatu123





To be honest man, thats a dumb question. How can anyone explain how good a reverse sound is?


Its doing just that, sampling your playing and reversing it.. How good do you want it to be? Its a digital delay for gods sake, its gonna be point perfect sampling and 100% mix capability...

 

 

To be honest man, no it isn't a dumb question. The sound bites on those sites are done by pros who can make anything sound good. One poster here said it was glitchy.

 

And no, it isn't just taking your sound and reversing it. It does a little volume swell and an abrupt ending, with echo and tape warble simulation on top of that, so I imagine there is plenty of potential for glitchyness.

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Originally posted by nosferatu123




In relation to the "reverse delay" issue claim, thats how every reverse delay pedal works with exception to a reverse sampler.


As for the tapping less time then you could dial with a knob, ive never come across such a thing in my life...And its impossible..


it doesn't sound like that {censored} on the dl-4, and it is teh same company :mad: and yes... I tapped lower delaytime than the knob woudl dial... what I woudl expect the knob on any other delay to be just above zero... the knob still had distinct repeats flashing at zero position...

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Originally posted by hangwire

it doesn't sound like that {censored} on the dl-4, and it is teh same company
:mad:



I just checked the samples on MF, and yeah, it does pretty much sound like that on the dl4 and the echo park. its with the pedal set to 100% wet, so you don't hear your guitar, only the reverse version of it. Play with it a little more, and you will see that it can do alot.:)

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Originally posted by exploradorable



And no, it isn't just taking your sound and reversing it. It does a little volume swell and an abrupt ending, with echo and tape warble simulation on top of that, so I imagine there is plenty of potential for glitchyness.



actually it does do the reverse of what you play, but not in realtime, so you will start playing something and the delay will be the reverse sample of what you played.
It doesnt do a volume swell and an abrupt stop to fake backwards sound, its your signal, played backwards. Keep in mind this is when you have it set 100% wet. If you have it set at 50%, you will hear your original guitar sound, followed by the reverse sample of it. ;)

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Originally posted by exploradorable



To be honest man, no it isn't a dumb question. The sound bites on those sites are done by pros who can make anything sound good. One poster here said it was glitchy.


And no, it isn't just taking your sound and reversing it. It does a little volume swell and an abrupt ending, with echo and tape warble simulation on top of that, so I imagine there is plenty of potential for glitchyness.

 

 

Like i said earlier man, it truly is a dumb question. Desertlimousine agrees with me here as well. Ive had a DD-6, currently have a DD-20 and the guy that lives next to me here has a DL-4 and im 100% sure that its doing just that, sampling your playing and reversing it.

 

As for you volume swell comment youve obviously got it mistaken with the SWELL mode on the Echo Park. Now thats a auto volume swell (no abrupt ending though).

 

As for the "glitchyness", thats just the inherent nature in reverse delays, part of your playing that doesnt fit the sample will get recorded in the next delayed phrase and itll be played back. EVERY reverse delay pedal works like that! The only way to not have that "glitchyness" is to time your delay to your playing...

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Originally posted by hangwire

it doesn't sound like that {censored} on the dl-4, and it is teh same company
:mad:
and yes... I tapped lower delaytime than the knob woudl dial... what I woudl expect the knob on any other delay to be just above zero... the knob still had distinct repeats flashing at zero position...



Yes you're right regarding the knob, i checked it out, never noticed this before but true, taps can definitely reach delay times less than the knob...

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I own both the DL-4 and EchoPark and I can say
that there is no sonic compromise in the EchoPark.

In fact, I also think that the EchoPark sounds better.

Here are clips that I've posted before:

It's just my guitar to the EchoPark direct to the board.

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~khfriese/EchoParkAnalogDemo.mp3

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~khfriese/EchoParkMultiTapArp.mp3

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Originally posted by The_Yeti

I own both the DL-4 and EchoPark and I can say

that there is no sonic compromise in the EchoPark.


In fact, I also think that the EchoPark sounds better.


Here are clips that I've posted before:


It's just my guitar to the EchoPark direct to the board.




try both reverse delays and tell me what is what...

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Originally posted by The_Yeti

I own both the DL-4 and EchoPark and I can say

that there is no sonic compromise in the EchoPark.


In fact, I also think that the EchoPark sounds better.


Here are clips that I've posted before:


It's just my guitar to the EchoPark direct to the board.


http://www-personal.umich.edu/~khfriese/EchoParkAnalogDemo.mp3


http://www-personal.umich.edu/~khfriese/EchoParkMultiTapArp.mp3



Nice!!!

LOVE the first one...

:thu:

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