Jump to content

Slightly OT- P90 opinions and new guitar advice


riffpowers

Recommended Posts

  • Members

Hi guys

After some long hard thinking I've decided to sell my lp custom that I've owned for 16 years.With a heavy heart I've realized its just not doing it for me anymore.Its just too heavy unwieldy and I find the tone far too trebly and bright.In the words of my guitar tech "it just don't sound right".I've had issues with it for some time now, and TBH since I got my LP standard which I think is a much nicer guitar.Whereas the custom is trebly(thin??harsh??) and bright and even feeds back, the standard is a much nicer player and has a much warmer more organic sound and is much more responsive.I never realized how much I didn't like the custom (although I always seemed to be searching for a 2nd guitar as it was never right for me) till I got the standard.

 

Seeing as I really like the standard but would like to try something different, I wondered about p90 guitars.

I would like a 335 but the feedback at volume is an issue for me, and I've always been a les paul guy.I play bluesy heavy stoner rock (think free/zep mixed with sabbath/qotsa) , I like a FAT sound, nice full bass, and I certainly don't want a harsh overly bright pickup that is noisy, its all about fat dark power tube overdrive for me, rather than high gain upper mid crunch.

So, would a P90 guitar or one of the p90 variants be a good choice for me???

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

i'm having the same troubles with my pearl les paul copy.. it sounds way too treble.. i tried 3 different pickups... dimarzio pickup unknown, seymour duncan '59 (crap imo)- JB (good but still too bright, treble).. i tried but it doesn't sound good.. the guitar plays like a dream.. i tried different pre-amp tubes (jj's).. it helped a bit.. but still not good... i recieved my framus sg copy this week and it has a p-90 in the neck and a single coil in the bridge.. and all the issues i had with too bright and treble are gone... ofcourse it doesn't have the "oomph" of a humbucker but i can live with it...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

 

Originally posted by Nico de Roode

You sold the guitar because you don't like the pickups?

 

 

I haven't sold it yet.

Its a combination of things, it hasn't been doing it for me for some years, but the harsh and trebly tone is down to the construction as well as the pickups, I don't think a pickup change is the answer unfortunatley.Might be fine for someone else, but I'm really sick of the bright spaniness and the heavy feel to the body, unlike the standard I have.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

 

Originally posted by fiveway switch

i know you dont wanna try pick ups but .


pete bintof of vintage vibe guitars does really awsome p-90's in sc and humbucker shapes . if you talk to him ill bet he can get you the tones you want .

 

 

+1:thu:

i have Vintage Vibe Hum-sized P-90's in both my les paul's now..and i've never been this happy with my tone. It may lack some of the power of a humbucker, but what you lose there, you make up for in spank, a wider/fuller tone and clarity.

Oh, and it's Pete Biltoft and he can be reached here cynpete1@earthlink.net

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

 

Originally posted by Stoney Stomp



+1:thu:

i have Vintage Vibe Hum-sized P-90's in both my les paul's now..and i've never been this happy with my tone. It may lack some of the power of a humbucker, but what you lose there, you make up for in spank, a wider/fuller tone and clarity.

Oh, and it's Pete Biltoft and he can be reached here

 

 

+1 on the Vintage Vibe P90 hum sized.

 

I put one in the bridge position of my Les Paul. It is awesome. And surprisingly quiet for a single coil!

 

taco

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

Somehow, I don't see how going from a humbucker to a P90 is going to fix your treble issues. And considering that we're talking about a Les Paul here, I'd say that it's the pickups that are giving you the grief - how many guitars out there are less trebly than an LP? Explorers? RDs? Jazzboxes? Even if the thing was solid maple throughout, I don't see how it could be that trebly with all of that wood there.

 

There's also this feature on many guitars called a 'tone control'. It rolls off - you guessed it! - treble. I believe your guitar has two.

 

Sorry to be sarcastic, but all in all I think you held onto that guitar for 16 years for a reason. That, and people who bitch about bright/trebly guitars that never think to use their tone knob kinda piss me off.

 

That said, even if the guitar is a naturally trebly beast, you could still find pickups that will get rid of it - Invaders? Don't laugh, there's a guy in the user reviews section who uses one in the neck position for - get this! - jazz :). He removed the stock capacitor on the pickup, though, and he keeps it adjusted low in the guitar to take the edge off of the output.

 

If the output worries you, I direct you to another misunderstood feature of the electric guitar, the 'volume knob'.

 

I believe your guitar has two of these, too. :thu:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

Originally posted by mabus013

Somehow, I don't see how going from a humbucker to a P90 is going to fix your treble issues. And considering that we're talking about a Les Paul here, I'd say that it's the pickups that are giving you the grief - how many guitars out there are less trebly than an LP? Explorers? RDs? Jazzboxes? Even if the thing was solid maple throughout, I don't see how it could be that trebly with all of that wood there.


There's also this feature on many guitars called a 'tone control'. It rolls off - you guessed it! - treble. I believe your guitar has two.


Sorry to be sarcastic, but all in all I think you held onto that guitar for 16 years for a reason. That, and people who bitch about bright/trebly guitars that never think to use their tone knob kinda piss me off.


That said, even if the guitar is a naturally trebly beast, you could still find pickups that will get rid of it - Invaders? Don't laugh, there's a guy in the user reviews section who uses one in the neck position for - get this! - jazz
:)
. He removed the stock capacitor on the pickup, though, and he keeps it adjusted low in the guitar to take the edge off of the output.


If the output worries you, I direct you to another misunderstood feature of the electric guitar, the 'volume knob'.


I believe your guitar has two of these, too.
:thu:

 

Believe it or not, after 21 years of playing and 16 years of playing this guitar, I have already discovered the volume and tone knobs. ;) ;)

The guitar is generally very trebly , unplugged or plugged.Especially compared to my standard which is marmer and more responsive and sounds much better to me.

I doubt a pickup change is gonna cure it.

And as I said earlier, the reason I've hung onto it for so long is sentimental. Once I got another les paul its shortcomings and differences became really obvious.

Other people might like it, its just not for me anymore.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

×
×
  • Create New...