Members preservation Posted April 19, 2006 Members Share Posted April 19, 2006 dudes- i need some advice on which boxes i should check into.easy: i need to be able to plug my cheap yamaha toy-keyboard & my guitar into my pedalboard at one time(so basically i need an A/B) and then i need a box that allows the signal from my pedalboard to go to 2 different amps at the same time...(so basically an A/B/Y, right?) what are some affordable and more importantly, RELIABLE units ? p.s.-the smaller they are, the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bucky Posted April 19, 2006 Members Share Posted April 19, 2006 If you don't need to switch between the two amps, you could try a Y-cable. You might find that you have a ground loop but for $2 or so for the cable I'd try that first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members preservation Posted April 19, 2006 Author Members Share Posted April 19, 2006 eh, the Y cable freaks me out. long story. how about A/B & A/B/Y boxes? morley? whirlwind? loooper? monkeyfx? etc...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bucky Posted April 19, 2006 Members Share Posted April 19, 2006 A standard whirlwind/loooper one should work fine unless you find that your two amps create a ground loop. If that happens you might need to shell out for a fancy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members preservation Posted April 19, 2006 Author Members Share Posted April 19, 2006 whats a ground loop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaSkip Posted April 19, 2006 Members Share Posted April 19, 2006 I use an A/B switcher to choose between two amps. I use A to go to a TTE stereo output where the signal is split to a MAZ 18 watt Jr. and an Atom Amp 15 watt Metroliner. The B side goes direct to a Fender Black Faced RI Twin. I am still trying to rein in this beast, but so far so great. More info to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members preservation Posted April 19, 2006 Author Members Share Posted April 19, 2006 well i'll basically have my Sovtek & 4x12" and an Ampeg VT-22 combo pushing a 2x12" or 4x12". i want them both to be on at the same time. no switching. BOTH must inherit the signal path, BOTH must push it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaSkip Posted April 19, 2006 Members Share Posted April 19, 2006 Then you select A&B on the switching pedal of your choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GuyaGuy Posted April 19, 2006 Members Share Posted April 19, 2006 i have a DOD AB box. got it for like $10 or sumfin. no complaints; has a regular switch rather than the tactile button under a plastic stomper like most DODs. would work like a charm for the first use. like this only cheaper:http://cgi.ebay.com/DOD-270-A-B-Box-Guitar-Pedal-Switch-Amp-A-or-B_W0QQitemZ7408547307QQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shipatsea Posted April 19, 2006 Members Share Posted April 19, 2006 the loop-master boxes are solid!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The*Ataris Posted April 19, 2006 Members Share Posted April 19, 2006 Originally posted by preservation well i'll basically have my Sovtek & 4x12"and an Ampeg VT-22 combo pushing a 2x12" or 4x12".i want them both to be on at the same time.no switching.BOTH must inherit the signal path, BOTH must push it. Are you running any stereo pedals? Something like a DD3 might really do the trick. Just set the delay time to minimum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members veil Posted April 19, 2006 Members Share Posted April 19, 2006 My loooper is great and affordable. If I have a ground loop, I use a 3->2 prong adaptor on one of my amps. Problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members andreas Posted April 19, 2006 Members Share Posted April 19, 2006 Originally posted by veil My loooper is great and affordable. If I have a ground loop, I use a 3->2 prong adaptor on one of my amps. Problem solved. ...until that amp develops a problem that sends mains voltage (or worse, about 500vDC, if it's a tube amp) into its chassis. In order for that voltage to reach ground, it will have to travel up the guitar cable to the A/B box, and if you're lucky, it will mostly take the path down the other guitar cable to the other amp. If not, it will pass all the way through your pedalboard into your guitar, to the strings (which are grounded) and through you to ground... Either way, you will not like the sensation. For pairing amps, a transformer isolated A/B/Y or splitter box is really the only way to go, IMHO. Andi at www.monkeyfx.co.uk makes one of the best and most affordable you will ever find, and if you only want a splitter or iso box (to isolate one of the amps from the other), he'll do that for you too for even less. For the guitar/keyboard selector, all you need is a simple passive A/B box of some sort. /Andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dot-dot-dot Posted April 19, 2006 Members Share Posted April 19, 2006 Aye - I do a transformer isolated splitter, with a buffer so the two amps don't load down your pickups, for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members orourke Posted April 19, 2006 Members Share Posted April 19, 2006 I have this big-ass Morley A/B Box that I've been using since before the internet was invented, still works great. It takes a 9V battery for the LED's, and the battery seems to last for about ten years. I recomend Morley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members veil Posted April 19, 2006 Members Share Posted April 19, 2006 Originally posted by andreas ...until that amp develops a problem that sends mains voltage (or worse, about 500vDC, if it's a tube amp) into its chassis. In order for that voltage to reach ground, it will have to travel up the guitar cable to the A/B box, and if you're lucky, it will mostly take the path down the other guitar cable to the other amp. If not, it will pass all the way through your pedalboard into your guitar, to the strings (which are grounded) and through you to ground... Either way, you will not like the sensation. For pairing amps, a transformer isolated A/B/Y or splitter box is really the only way to go, IMHO. Andi at www.monkeyfx.co.uk makes one of the best and most affordable you will ever find, and if you only want a splitter or iso box (to isolate one of the amps from the other), he'll do that for you too for even less. For the guitar/keyboard selector, all you need is a simple passive A/B box of some sort. /Andreas uh oh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members andreas Posted April 19, 2006 Members Share Posted April 19, 2006 Originally posted by veil uh oh. Well, they don't call it safety ground for no reason... /Andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members apunkrockmonk Posted May 7, 2006 Members Share Posted May 7, 2006 Originally posted by orourke I have this big-ass Morley A/B Box that I've been using since before the internet was invented, still works great. It takes a 9V battery for the LED's, and the battery seems to last for about ten years.I recomend Morley. I actually bought a new morley box from guitar center today. They tried to talk me into getting the one that cost twice as much, saying that the morley cut out when switching. Well, when I started using it, I didn't notice that being a problem, although, literally, after 25 minutes of gentle use, both buttons on the foot switch ceased to function. I have never owned anything that has broken so fast in my life. Is this the norm with newer morley stuff or should I exchange it for another model of the same type and give it another shot? This pedal cost $49 btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members erksin Posted May 7, 2006 Members Share Posted May 7, 2006 Originally posted by preservation eh, the Y cable freaks me out. long story. how about A/B & A/B/Y boxes? morley? whirlwind? loooper? monkeyfx? etc...? www.startouchpedals.comKiller build quality, Keeley-esque customer service. HIGHLY recommended! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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