Members Craigfnh Posted April 26, 2006 Members Share Posted April 26, 2006 Since I bought my Boss CE-5 I put it after my Big Muff but I always liked it better with my amps built in distortion, which means the chorus is first because dont use loops. So I just tried it BEFORE my Big Muff and I like it a lot better. The effect sounds a bit cooler actually and I dont get a big increase in volume like you do when it is after. So I have decided I like chorus before distortion/fuzz. Am I the only one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rid Posted April 26, 2006 Members Share Posted April 26, 2006 All my modulation has been before my drives, for 20 years now;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members inscho Posted April 26, 2006 Members Share Posted April 26, 2006 I put most of my modulation before dirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hugbot Posted April 26, 2006 Members Share Posted April 26, 2006 Yeah I use all my modulation before distortion. Phaser sounds the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ivor The Engine Driver Posted April 26, 2006 Members Share Posted April 26, 2006 Flanger before dirt gives you that cool Isley who's that lady sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nosferatu123 Posted April 26, 2006 Members Share Posted April 26, 2006 Originally posted by Craigfnh Since I bought my Boss CE-5 I put it after my Big Muff but I always liked it better with my amps built in distortion, which means the chorus is first because dont use loops. So I just tried it BEFORE my Big Muff and I like it a lot better. The effect sounds a bit cooler actually and I dont get a big increase in volume like you do when it is after. So I have decided I like chorus before distortion/fuzz. Am I the only one? You are actually following the "rules" of chorus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KjStrat62 Posted April 26, 2006 Members Share Posted April 26, 2006 Your right on track! Hence when you use distortion with it setup this way you avoid the chezzy 80's thing. Not that it is bad but adds more of a enhancement!! Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gproud Posted April 26, 2006 Members Share Posted April 26, 2006 It's the same principle if you use your amps natural distortion, and either don't have, or don't use your FX loop. All of your effects go before distortion. I never used the loop on my previous amp, and my current one doesn't have one, and my pedals sound fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dealer Posted April 26, 2006 Members Share Posted April 26, 2006 so you guys are saying the conventional or more common is modulation effects BEFORE distortions? a. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members inscho Posted April 26, 2006 Members Share Posted April 26, 2006 Originally posted by dealer so you guys are saying the conventional or more common is modulation effects BEFORE distortions?a. I'd say its about 50/50, it depends on whether you what your distortion to boost the effect, or if you prefer more subtlety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sub rosa Posted April 26, 2006 Members Share Posted April 26, 2006 I prefer phaser after fuzz, gives that intense sound ala the end of Parallel Universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dealer Posted April 26, 2006 Members Share Posted April 26, 2006 yea, I've got my CE-2 running after all my distortions and I like the sort of hollow-tube sound it achieves.... a. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members justing Posted April 26, 2006 Members Share Posted April 26, 2006 Originally posted by GDan Phaser sounds the best [before distortion] + 10000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fusionid Posted April 26, 2006 Members Share Posted April 26, 2006 first rule about effects placement is that there is not rules go make a good song son:evil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tnttnttnt Posted April 27, 2006 Members Share Posted April 27, 2006 The only effects that should go after distortion are delay and reverb. For the rest of the effects it depends on what you are using. The EVH phase 90 for instance sounds like crap in the loop, but is great in front of the amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nosebleed Posted April 27, 2006 Members Share Posted April 27, 2006 Originally posted by justing + 10000 10000+ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members capnbringdown Posted April 27, 2006 Members Share Posted April 27, 2006 I had to move my mojo vibe before my icbm because I was getting way too much distorted chorus. That's a real nasty sound. Before that, I've always had modulation after dirt. I really hate the way a phaser sounds before dirt. You need it after so its more subtle, and you can't hear the woosh. Same thing with flanger, except it should be last in the chain. I think I need to get another flanger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members paperhouse Posted April 27, 2006 Members Share Posted April 27, 2006 Originally posted by capnbringdown I really hate the way a phaser sounds before dirt. You need it after so its more subtle, and you can't hear the woosh. Same thing with flanger, except it should be last in the chain. I think I need to get another flanger. in my experience, putting a phaser after distortion makes it WAY more intense with a much more noticable swoosh. same with flangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members iodine74 Posted April 27, 2006 Members Share Posted April 27, 2006 I like having at least one delay before distortion/od as well. Helps with that kinda lo-fi sound for noisy swashy leads. About a year ago I picked up a ce-5 and bf-2 and tried them out in front of both rat2 and my sd-1 and liked the results. To me it's just a bigger sound. Conventional wisdom is modulation after ods/ds... I say that based on 3 things.1) I've read about that before in articles 2) Most pedal makers websites that feature signal chains usually show dist->mod->delay.3) Most multi-effects units (particularly older ones that had a fixed order) run it that way as well. Phasers to me also sound better before. And yeah.. I agree with the post distortion positioning makes things abit 80s sounding. -T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fernmeister Posted April 27, 2006 Members Share Posted April 27, 2006 Originally posted by dealer so you guys are saying the conventional or more common is modulation effects BEFORE distortions?a. depends; for phase it is probably 70/30, for flange about even (if we include amp dirt), and for chorus about 30/70 the other way. but there are no strict rules, just guidelines and experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gr8fuldodd Posted April 27, 2006 Members Share Posted April 27, 2006 It's time for Sharia lawput an od after a modulation, lose the foot that tapped the pedalor vise versa, but we must choose now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hugbot Posted April 27, 2006 Members Share Posted April 27, 2006 Also, Volume swells+modulation>distortion>delay=Awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lanefair Posted April 27, 2006 Members Share Posted April 27, 2006 What you're all suggesting is the equivalent of covering a washing machine up with a stinking blanket, rather than putting the blanket in the machine. What I'm suggesting is one of the most useless analogies ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Uma Floresta Posted April 27, 2006 Members Share Posted April 27, 2006 Sometimes that can be nice, I guess.... like an Electric Mistress before a fuzz gives a very Jimi Hendrix univibey kind of sound, but mostly I stick modulation after distortion... but actually, I mostly don't mix the two at all.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pelicandeano Posted April 27, 2006 Members Share Posted April 27, 2006 I agree. I use flanger vibe chours and phase before distorsion. My delay and rotosim is after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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