Members Ray18 Posted May 5, 2006 Members Share Posted May 5, 2006 NOBODY MENTION THE {censored}ING KEELEY!!!! WE GET IT I had a 91' re-issue with the lm308 chip, and I found that this pedal wasn't good for anything at first you think it might be as good DIST pedal...and yet it has this really odd compression/pick attack that ruins you "chunk", it's like an MXR+ with fuzz dynamics, it sounds like an interesting sound, but it's really stifling. Okay, so let's use it as a fuzz..but now it doesn't compress enough..it can't get "wooly" without being muddy. Put it next to a muff and it gets shamed useless tone control IMO, the "just breaking up sound" is really gated. I can't understand the raves about it, and I'm pretty sure some famous guy used it for something. And it was a really early dist...so maybe there's some nostalga form a time when it owned a huge market share and could very well have been the best thing at the time.. it's funny, I bought this peavey hotfoot pedal..and when you look inside it's a pretty obvious tweeked rat clone, right down to the lm308! just a thougth, this thread is for haters only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NoirAbattoir Posted May 5, 2006 Members Share Posted May 5, 2006 It's ok in a loud, clean tube amp. Otherwise, nah, I don't really dig it. Too messy, and not in a fuzz-like way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 returned the turbo within hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members squareking Posted May 5, 2006 Members Share Posted May 5, 2006 Only liked 'em (Vintage RI and an '84 I had) through a loud tube amp. Otherwise, no go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Blungo Posted May 5, 2006 Members Share Posted May 5, 2006 It's weird (or i am), sometimes i love the rat. Other times not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members squareking Posted May 5, 2006 Members Share Posted May 5, 2006 Originally posted by Blungo It's weird (or i am), sometimes i love the rat. Other times not so much. Blungo. Ibanez Overdrive clips. Please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members surfcat Posted May 5, 2006 Members Share Posted May 5, 2006 I thought I liked it-played a vintage rat at a used store and liked it, but it was overpriced. Then I found one at a good price, and played it, and just didn't get the same feeling-played it next to a muff-liked it better than the muff, but not enough to buy it. Kind of like a fuzzy distortion, not really like a Marshall like they advertise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Blungo Posted May 5, 2006 Members Share Posted May 5, 2006 Originally posted by jimihalen Blungo. Ibanez Overdrive clips. Please? Man, i am so swamped with work stuff.I will try to post a really crappy clip tomorrow night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LoneStarGuitar Posted May 5, 2006 Members Share Posted May 5, 2006 Originally posted by surfcat I thought I liked it-played a vintage rat at a used store and liked it, but it was overpriced. Then I found one at a good price, and played it, and just didn't get the same feeling-played it next to a muff-liked it better than the muff, but not enough to buy it. Kind of like a fuzzy distortion, not really like a Marshall like they advertise. but play it with a marshall and les paul.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StratAtak83 Posted May 5, 2006 Members Share Posted May 5, 2006 Originally posted by Ray18 NOBODY MENTION THE {censored}ING KEELEY!!!! WE GET IT] THat was funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members imcorn Posted May 5, 2006 Members Share Posted May 5, 2006 totally hated my rat2.. couldn't get any decent sounds out of it.. and it sounded very harsh to my ears.. even my boss pedals sound better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members squareking Posted May 5, 2006 Members Share Posted May 5, 2006 Originally posted by Blungo Man, i am so swamped with work stuff. I will try to post a really crappy clip tomorrow night. Hey, no pressure, no pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members (((echo))) Posted May 5, 2006 Members Share Posted May 5, 2006 the keeley mod killed everything good about my rat.. i don't know why i thought i wanted a hifi rat, that's just stupid. {censored}ing gas inducers around here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HeHateMe Posted May 5, 2006 Members Share Posted May 5, 2006 Originally posted by (((echo))) the keeley mod killed everything good about my rat.. i don't know why i thought i wanted a hifi rat, that's just stupid. {censored}ing gas inducers around here i like mine...what? who said that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Klisk Posted May 5, 2006 Members Share Posted May 5, 2006 I hated the rat. It just wasn't what I was expecting, that's for sure.My impression of the rat was a tubescreamer with gobs more bass response and gain on hand.Instead it was just sort of gated and funky. I can understand where it fits in modern rock music, but yeah. With my test drives, I had no desire to buy one.I ended up with the Ibanez TS7, and I still use it till this day. I know the two pedals are entirely different beasts(breasts?), but I still associate the rat with my bizarre "I want a hotrodded tubescreamer!" phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members utterhack Posted May 5, 2006 Members Share Posted May 5, 2006 Originally posted by Klisk sort of gated and funky... But that's exactly what I like about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members seifukusha Posted May 5, 2006 Members Share Posted May 5, 2006 ive never really tried it. once long long ago. its on my got to dig list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wah wah Posted May 5, 2006 Members Share Posted May 5, 2006 Instead of a distortion pedal I like an EMG-81 at the bridge. I just plug straight into my amp with that. It's very crunchy. And it doesn't destroy my dynamics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gr8fuldodd Posted May 5, 2006 Members Share Posted May 5, 2006 Originally posted by (((echo))) the keeley mod killed everything good about my rat.. i don't know why i thought i wanted a hifi rat, that's just stupid. {censored}ing gas inducers around here Gave me a versatile pedalbut more importantly, what did it kill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brian Marshall Posted May 5, 2006 Members Share Posted May 5, 2006 I had a rat for about five years. The only thing i found it useful for was playing leads, but after a while i went to a two tubescreamer set up while i was gigging, which worked better for the leads. It is really hard to find a highish gain overdrive with natural bass response. tubescreamers do their thing... the rat almost does it... through my ranger it seemed to kill bass response... through amps with less headroom it seemed to have too much and get farty. I actually got a lot of use out of it in the studio with my old band... we did two songs with distorted vocal tracks, and i used the rat on both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YourHerodDGC Posted May 5, 2006 Members Share Posted May 5, 2006 I love my rat. The only thing i don't like about it though is that i only love the way it sounds when the filter knob is around 1:00- 2:00. Otherwise it's too trebley or too muddy. But when it is in that 1-2, it's just what i need for an almost heavy OD/distortion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vigor&kandor Posted May 5, 2006 Members Share Posted May 5, 2006 i love rats. i have 3 in all. one Vintage Reissue with LM308, one Vodka Mods, and one that i tweaked around myself. the Vintage Reissue sounds sweet. i dont think it has as much gain as my other rat2s. Vodka Mods rat is what i use for bass. i do not notice any bass loss when i use it. my other rat2 is on my board. i tried tweaking it. changed chip, and diodes. tried different tone caps. i pretty much went back to stock after all was said and done. i tried an LM308 in it and it just mad it noisier. I liked the stock chip much better. to each his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members L6Sguy Posted May 5, 2006 Members Share Posted May 5, 2006 ^REPORTED!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ray18 Posted May 5, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 5, 2006 Originally posted by vigor&kandor i love rats. i have 3 in all. one Vintage Reissue with LM308, one Vodka Mods, and one that i tweaked around myself.the Vintage Reissue sounds sweet. i dont think it has as much gain as my other rat2s.Vodka Mods rat is what i use for bass. i do not notice any bass loss when i use it.my other rat2 is on my board. i tried tweaking it. changed chip, and diodes. tried different tone caps. i pretty much went back to stock after all was said and done. i tried an LM308 in it and it just mad it noisier. I liked the stock chip much better.to each his own. HATAH'S ONLY!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Klisk Posted May 5, 2006 Members Share Posted May 5, 2006 Originally posted by Ray18 HATAH'S ONLY!! WERD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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