Members Monkey see Posted May 6, 2006 Members Share Posted May 6, 2006 I don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stereotypy Posted May 6, 2006 Members Share Posted May 6, 2006 well... you said you play metal dl:4 unless you are the lead guitarist and play a lot of solos this won't add too much color.. if you play lot of lead, i think this improves it quite much! mm:4personally i don't like that one... but, well, for metal... why not? you will have flanger, phaser, chorus and rotary sounds that make you sound like a jet, or underwater or... definately "adds" color!!! fm:4well.. for metal.. hm.. i'd say just for intro/outros or special bridges.. it's a you love it or hate it pedal. i find it very inspiring, though.... i owned the dl4 and fm4 and played the mm4 of a friend of mine... i don't own the line6 stuff anymore.. so you can't come over to test it. but maybe check em out in the sound-and-drumland or guitar-shop.de ... i like the last one. not sure if they have them in stock, though. if you do a blind buy i think the the mm4 would be good choice. especially for rythm parts. for leads the dl4 adds a lot of space!!! and for crazy stuff the fm4 is really crazy! what are your other fx? or amps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Monkey see Posted May 6, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 6, 2006 Guten Tag ! Well I play 2 amps at the same time. A Diezel VH-4 and an old Marshall JMP. My only other "FX" is the Boss RC-20XL althou I don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stereotypy Posted May 6, 2006 Members Share Posted May 6, 2006 Originally posted by Monkey see Guten Tag ! Well I play 2 amps at the same time. A Diezel VH-4 and an old Marshall JMP. My only other "FX" is the Boss RC-20XL althou I don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Monkey see Posted May 6, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 6, 2006 Well I am the only guitar player in the band aswell :-D Not much of a Solo type of guy. But alot of riffing going on... Sometimes we put in some clean parts in our songs.... maybe it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stereotypy Posted May 6, 2006 Members Share Posted May 6, 2006 the dl4 is a great pedal. and an easy to use looper included (though only with around 32 sec. rec time)... the echo park is great too. and i really liked the ibanez dl-7, you can use it in analog or digital mode. but the repeats are gone when you switch it off. hm.. and about the fm4.. i'm not quite sure. more "normal" would it be to just go with the mm4. .. though i don't really like it. but you made me remember a friends band where the 2nd guitarist was using the fm4 just a little bit.. and it sounded great. played hardcore style and i really needed to know what that fx was when i first saw them!!! if you look for delays.. look into:dl-7digidelay (budget of the echopark!)echoparkdl4 / dd20 those are the ones i liked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Monkey see Posted May 6, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 6, 2006 Well i have to see, ill go and try some stuff on monday at S&D. Right now I like the idea with the FM4 and the Echo park :-D What ws the name of your friends band ?? maybe i know them... my band: www.averyrock.com not uptodate cuz we are going into a studio to record our second album in some weeks. well the sounds on the site are old aswell, but anyway thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stereotypy Posted May 6, 2006 Members Share Posted May 6, 2006 well they split and i searched the net just for them but can't remember their band name right.. something like "always deny" or "only deny".. or??? and they came from n Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Monkey see Posted May 6, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 6, 2006 haha, yeah I sold Trent the right to use that name for his song the Diezel is without a question the best amp I have ever played and I went trough alot of amps before the diezel. everything from bogner to mesa and engl. I love it :-D when you listen to some songs listen to the ones from the Lie, Cheat & Steal album, cuz that is how we sound like.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stereotypy Posted May 6, 2006 Members Share Posted May 6, 2006 do you use the diezel on the lie, cheat... stuff? well it sounds great and i really recommened you the fm4!! + if you can get a dl4, go for that. look at ebay.de or so. otherwise get the echopark. i think in some quiet passages a little self-oscillation could be nice.. if the dl4 is too much and you have trouble or dislike the echopark, try the ibanez dl-7,.. wonderful oscillation and good delay. and some great stuff all of you are using!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Monkey see Posted May 6, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 6, 2006 no on LC&S I used a Mesa Dual recti, my Marshall JMP and a JCM 800. Well we like gear hehe. The list on the site is old we have some new toys now :-D Likie I said. I think Ill get the FM4 and an Echo park :-Pand you are right. it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stereotypy Posted May 6, 2006 Members Share Posted May 6, 2006 be sure that you use a good power supply.. the echopark is like most of the tonecore pedals and don't like some adapters.. so you will get some hiss.. a few hints about the fm4: the octo setting can do self-oscillation if you play the 2nd and 3rd knob from the right. but keep watch the mix (faaar rigth knob) to not get too loud.. the seek-trem setting is cool. the obi-wah a little more weird and for that better imo. but the bass is feeling sometimes like it could damage the speaker on the obi-wah setting... the throbber is very nice! try that one! if you play stereo,.. you could try the spin cycle.. nice.. but nothing more imo. with the synthesizer setting (forgot the name.. it's the one htat's exactly 9 o'clock) you can get some cool telephon-ringing or bell sounds... i often used the throbber and the morning dew settings for underwater barbles.. BE SURE YOU HAVE THE MANUAL WHEN YOU TEST IT!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Monkey see Posted May 6, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 6, 2006 thanks ! Sounds like it will be fun to play it :-D But Ill look on ebay when it comes to buy... don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stereotypy Posted May 6, 2006 Members Share Posted May 6, 2006 yep,.. s&d is tha {censored}!! i rarely buy from them. last time was about more than 2 years ago some plektrums.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Monkey see Posted May 6, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 6, 2006 haha, everybody I know says that aswell... I always go ther to try things out, but buy, I do elsewere. Hmm, I just saw that I could maybe get an DL4 and a FM4 within my budget at ebay.... that would be best or ? :-P Do you know how big they are ?? around 20cm long or ?? Cuz I need to fit them on my board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bojo Posted May 6, 2006 Members Share Posted May 6, 2006 they're about 25-26 cm long. the fm4's a good choice for sick sound. as said before, try it with manual cause the controls change alot from one effect to another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Monkey see Posted May 6, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 6, 2006 will do ! :-D and thanks... hmmm, I guess I need a bigger pedalboard then :-/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stereotypy Posted May 6, 2006 Members Share Posted May 6, 2006 well where the dl4 shines: - 3 presets - easiest looper i had and played with! - great emulation of vintage tape-echos!! - other delay sounds are great, too. - with expression pedal incl. you can do fun things!! (also with the fm4 ) ah.. i forgot. try to put the right output of the fm4 into the right input of the fm4.. just put a cable in there.. an be very careful.. really you need to try with your amp set to bedroom level first. crazy noises appear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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