Members Stratotone Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 I know Eric uses a Fuzz face (held together with rubber bands, no less!) but what is a pedal that would get me that type of lead tone? I had a 'flashback fuzz' and it was a total POS. Played through a reissue fuzz face at a local musicgoround and it sucked pretty badly too - no sustain, just sounded super harsh. Any ideas? Peteslow convert to the pedal lifestyle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CicadaSilence Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 You need to lean the aforementioned rubber-banded Fuzz Face against a small block of 3/4" plywood at a 45 degree angle. Not 1/2" plywood, nor a 50 degree angle. The plywood must be unfinished. Spraypaint degrades tone. All jackassery aside, I have no idea. Maybe a Muff with the gain down quite a bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fusionid Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 not his lead tone. Lead tone is tube driver to marshall amp here The main changes to my live rig over the past few years are that I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrbluetone Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 What amp and guitar you using? here's EJ when I saw him at KC warming up Stariani..great tone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elliott Damage Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 whats up with all this polarity nonsense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fusionid Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Originally posted by Elliott Damage whats up with all this polarity nonsense? hehe gotta admit it is funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fusionid Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 OH by the way, source of the info is guitar player http://www.guitarplayer.com/story.asp?sectioncode=4&storycode=10270 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stratotone Posted May 10, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 I really think Eric *can* hear all this stuff, and it sounds more like a curse to me than anything. What I'm using: A JSX occasionally with a bad monkey in the 2nd channel! Seriously. I had no idea Eric used a fuzz for rhythm, because the fuzzes that I've played were sputtery and pretty much craptacular for rhythm tones. I may build or buy a few fuzzes just for the heck of it. Guitarwise - when my band does EJ covers, I play either a mid 90s Charvel USA strat with Dimarzio and duncan pickups, a Les Paul Studio w/Duncan 59s, or a '91 PRS CU24 with HFS in the bridge and an old van zandt pickup in the neck. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elliott Damage Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Originally posted by Stratotone I really think Eric *can* hear all this stuff, and it sounds more like a curse to me than anything. What I'm using: A JSX occasionally with a bad monkey in the 2nd channel! Seriously. I had no idea Eric used a fuzz for rhythm, because the fuzzes that I've played were sputtery and pretty much craptacular for rhythm tones. I may build or buy a few fuzzes just for the heck of it. Guitarwise - when my band does EJ covers, I play either a mid 90s Charvel USA strat with Dimarzio and duncan pickups, a Les Paul Studio w/Duncan 59s, or a '91 PRS CU24 with HFS in the bridge and an old van zandt pickup in the neck. Pete i think he just has obsessive compulsive disorder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fusionid Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Originally posted by Stratotone I really think Eric *can* hear all this stuff, and it sounds more like a curse to me than anything. What I'm using: A JSX occasionally with a bad monkey in the 2nd channel! Seriously. I had no idea Eric used a fuzz for rhythm, because the fuzzes that I've played were sputtery and pretty much craptacular for rhythm tones. I may build or buy a few fuzzes just for the heck of it. Guitarwise - when my band does EJ covers, I play either a mid 90s Charvel USA strat with Dimarzio and duncan pickups, a Les Paul Studio w/Duncan 59s, or a '91 PRS CU24 with HFS in the bridge and an old van zandt pickup in the neck. Pete wow dejavu I hear the fuzz in his rythm parts like zap (G3) that goes back and forth between lead and fuzz. First time fuzz is on in that song is at about 00.08. check it out I also get lovely tones feeding a silicon fuzz into get bad monkey slight overdrive, into channel 1. Otherwise my silicon fuzz is too trebbly to get his rythms, but falls in the ballpark. I am getting a germaniun fuzz next week, see if that does the trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stratotone Posted May 10, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Originally posted by fusionid wow dejavuI hear the fuzz in his rythm parts like zap (G3) that goes back and forth between lead and fuzz.I also get lovely tones feeding a silicon fuzz into get bad monkey slight overdrive, into channel 1.Otherwise my silicon fuzz is too trebbly to get his rythms. I am getting a germaniun fuzz next week, see if that does the trick. Keep us posted, and thanks for posting the EJ info. Very cool stuff. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrbluetone Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 The two germanuim type boxes I use are the Keeley Fuzz Head which is really more a distortion with a germ flavor and stack it with his Fuzz Freak BD-2 with germ caps.... here's EJ in Tulsa! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fusionid Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 camel's night out intro, all pure fuzz then breaks into lead and back again a recurrent theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stratotone Posted May 10, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Originally posted by mrbluetone The two germanuim type boxes I use are the Keeley Fuzz Head which is really more a distortion with a germ flavor and stack it with his Fuzz Freak BD-2 with germ caps.... here's EJ in Tulsa! What year was that? I was likely there... seen Eric several times at Cains, except for last time at the Blues Festival... I had a gig that night, and was really tempted to blow it off and see Eric instead. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrbluetone Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Last year at the Blues fest...I missed last weekend... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stratotone Posted May 10, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Originally posted by mrbluetone Last year at the Blues fest...I missed last weekend... I was gigging both times... but hey, I did get to see EJ at the Granada in Dallas - jan 2005. Saw him at Cains in '89 (or was it '90?) and '95. I think his tone was best on the early '90ish show I saw though. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mike McLenison Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Get either a SansAmp Classic or Original pedal or the rackmount. It will get hue close/there with a good analog delay or Lexicon reverb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sweet_emotion16 Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 id say go for the seymour duncan twin tube classic .. or any pedal that has a pre amp tube should be able to get u really close to that singing lead tone and about the crazy eric johnson stuff... i totally know where hes comin from its just that im not smart enough to locate where the problems come from... !!! this guy can do all his own amp and guitar work which is more then i can say... there have been times when ive been playing and i use the same settings and its been in the same room its just i have something plugged in different or using a dif cable or it could be anything except i just leave it and try to continue.. obviously eric likes to get to the bottom of this stuff which i respect just because he can!.... but even more important than his tone is the fact he can PLAY!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gr8fuldodd Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Originally posted by Elliott Damage i think he just has obsessive compulsive disorder. I wish I had thatall it does for me is make me tap my pencil a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members carlygtr56 Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 His Fuzz Face tone is a secondary lead tone. You hear him switch between the 2 lead tones often live.Any decent Fuzz Face and roll the bridge tone of a little on the guitar gets close, IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StompboxMan Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Since different dirt boxes of the same model tend to sound unique. Let us remember Eric has hand picked his Fuzz Face from many others. So when buying any dirt box try another one to find your favorite. With Internet dealers this means they should play at least two of them over the phone for you before you buy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members alteredsounds Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Anyone else agree that aside for Cliffs of Dover and a handfull of others that most of his material is pretty damn dull. I have all the albums because of the guitar side def not because of the songwriting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StompboxMan Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Originally posted by alteredsounds Anyone else agree that aside for Cliffs of Dover and a handfull of others that most of his material is pretty damn dull. I have all the albums because of the guitar side def not because of the songwriting. Sure! He's too old school and not very innovative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stratotone Posted May 10, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Originally posted by StompboxMan Sure! He's too old school and not very innovative. *kicks you both square in the nuts* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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