Members dmk Posted May 14, 2006 Members Share Posted May 14, 2006 can anyone talk me out of buying a new boss sd1? they're only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members veil Posted May 14, 2006 Members Share Posted May 14, 2006 They do take low-end out of your sound when you're using it, in exchange for midrange focus and bright treble. Whether or not that's a good or bad thing is up to you, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Squier Fat Telecaster Posted May 14, 2006 Members Share Posted May 14, 2006 Buy the OD-3. Buy Once, Cry Once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tonemeister87 Posted May 14, 2006 Members Share Posted May 14, 2006 pull the trigger, then get it modded. Simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoboPimp Posted May 14, 2006 Members Share Posted May 14, 2006 some people use them completely stock too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tonemeister87 Posted May 14, 2006 Members Share Posted May 14, 2006 Originally posted by RoboPimp some people use them completely stock too. Yes, the less fortunate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members justing Posted May 14, 2006 Members Share Posted May 14, 2006 Buy the SD-1 and then get the Monte Allums mod if you want. I don't have it myself but I've heard tons of good things about it, it's cheap, and the clips sound good. Personally I use my SD-1 unmodded. I find it works out great because the mid bump and the slight bass cut work well for leads to cut through in a two guitar band, it's great. If I were the only guitar player I might get it modded to fix the bass loss though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members orourke Posted May 14, 2006 Members Share Posted May 14, 2006 Originally posted by justing Buy the SD-1 and then get the Monte Allums mod if you want. I don't have it myself but I've heard tons of good things about it, it's cheap, and the clips sound good. Personally I use my SD-1 unmodded. I find it works out great because the mid bump and the slight bass cut work well for leads to cut through in a two guitar band, it's great. If I were the only guitar player I might get it modded to fix the bass loss though. I've got an old MIJ Boss SD-1 that I've fallen in love with lately. I had it sitting around the house for about 15 years and suddenly realize this box sounds great! If someone can mod a new one into sounding like this one (how hard can it be?), you should have a pretty cool overdrive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members justing Posted May 15, 2006 Members Share Posted May 15, 2006 Originally posted by orourke I've got an old MIJ Boss SD-1 that I've fallen in love with lately. I had it sitting around the house for about 15 years and suddenly realize this box sounds great! If someone can mod a new one into sounding like this one (how hard can it be?), you should have a pretty cool overdrive. I have both an MIJ and the newer one too... The MIJ sounds better than the other but to me it seems like they have the same "problems", they're just less prominent in the MIJ. Personally I think they could both be improved by modding, but it's almost getting to the point where people think it's blashphemous to mod an MIJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members L6Sguy Posted May 15, 2006 Members Share Posted May 15, 2006 Originally posted by justing ...but it's almost getting to the point where people think it's blashphemous to mod an MIJ yeah, whatever. very early mij model, fuzzcentral mods done by delorean, who also installed an led bright enough to be seen from here to Yonkers. to be honest though, if it was never modded, i'd still thoroughly dig it for the reason you posted (re: 2guitar band). that, and the fact that i scored it for $14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members orourke Posted May 15, 2006 Members Share Posted May 15, 2006 Originally posted by justing I have both an MIJ and the newer one too... The MIJ sounds better than the other but to me it seems like they have the same "problems", they're just less prominent in the MIJ. Personally I think they could both be improved by modding, but it's almost getting to the point where people think it's blashphemous to mod an MIJ I tend to like my overdrive/distortion with a darker tone yet I haven't noticed any significant loss of bass with my MIJ SD-1, I have the tone knob set around 8.5 o'clock and it sounds great. BTW, I have a mid 80's Ibanez TS-9 that I sent to Keeley for a the Mod Plus. He sent me back a brand new modded TS-9. When I shot off a nasty e-mail and called him on the phone he said it was just an unfortunate mix-up, but I kind of suspected that maybe he wanted to keep my "vintage" pedal un-moddified. I sent the new one back and he sent me back my old one with the mod. I thought it was almost un-usable before the mod, but now it's been my fave pedal for a couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stangme01 Posted May 15, 2006 Members Share Posted May 15, 2006 Originally posted by orourke I tend to like my overdrive/distortion with a darker tone yet I haven't noticed any significant loss of bass with my MIJ SD-1, I have the tone knob set around 8.5 o'clock and it sounds great. BTW, I have a mid 80's Ibanez TS-9 that I sent to Keeley for a the Mod Plus. He sent me back a brand new modded TS-9. When I shot off a nasty e-mail and called him on the phone he said it was just an unfortunate mix-up, but I kind of suspected that maybe he wanted to keep my "vintage" pedal un-moddified. I sent the new one back and he sent me back my old one with the mod. I thought it was almost un-usable before the mod, but now it's been my fave pedal for a couple of years. I dunno how a TS9 could ever be considered unusable.........for anyone? I mean it may not be enough distortion for some, but its not exactly a love it or hate it sound like a ds-1 back on topic yeah me too, its so tempting to buy a DS-1 and have it modded, the clips of that monte guys modded one sounds SOOOOO good. and god thats so cheap for you to send it off and have them mod it for you. I wish i got a blue LED though i really like the blue one so much better than the red one hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dmk Posted May 15, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 15, 2006 cheers guys. gonna pick one up today and probably do some diy mods on it straight away. wish me luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members amanonfire Posted May 15, 2006 Members Share Posted May 15, 2006 i tried a stock one out this weekend, it hates my soapbars, the clean sound bled through when the effect was on. but when i plugged in my hagstrom it sounded ok. im just not big on that mid heavy over drive sound. i have been spoiled by home made boost pedals into raging non master volume el34 based amps. its hard to use anything else now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members inscho Posted May 15, 2006 Members Share Posted May 15, 2006 I like the sd1...it was the first dirt pedal I really liked....I am not using it anymore, but I still think its a good bang for the buck/beginner pedal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members imcorn Posted May 15, 2006 Members Share Posted May 15, 2006 Originally posted by amanonfire i tried a stock one out this weekend, it hates my soapbars, the clean sound bled through when the effect was on. but when i plugged in my hagstrom it sounded ok. im just not big on that mid heavy over drive sound. i have been spoiled by home made boost pedals into raging non master volume el34 based amps. its hard to use anything else now. its quite common for the sd-1 to bleed... there's a bleed fix online or u can always purchase the bleed fix from monte.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members amanonfire Posted May 15, 2006 Members Share Posted May 15, 2006 Originally posted by imcorn its quite common for the sd-1 to bleed... there's a bleed fix online or u can always purchase the bleed fix from monte.. i hadnt heard that, but i knew it was probably just a matter of upping the impedance of the input buffer. it was definitely a decent pedal with the lower output pickups, just not my bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IndyGuitarist Posted May 15, 2006 Members Share Posted May 15, 2006 Originally posted by imcorn its quite common for the sd-1 to bleed... there's a bleed fix online or u can always purchase the bleed fix from monte.. No need to buy it...it was posted in my newsletter for free as well as at http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/ a long time ago : bw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IndyGuitarist Posted May 15, 2006 Members Share Posted May 15, 2006 Originally posted by amanonfire i hadnt heard that, but i knew it was probably just a matter of upping the impedance of the input buffer. it was definitely a decent pedal with the lower output pickups, just not my bag. that works a bit, but not 100%. This image shown above is a 'mute' circuit that will cure it 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members imcorn Posted May 15, 2006 Members Share Posted May 15, 2006 hmm.. is that a .1 microf cap? and wch cap shld one shld i get, there are so many cap choices out there.. http://www.smallbearelec.com/Detail.bok?no=171 can this work for the .1microf cap or shld i get someting else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members amanonfire Posted May 15, 2006 Members Share Posted May 15, 2006 Originally posted by IndyGuitarist that works a bit, but not 100%. This image shown above is a 'mute' circuit that will cure it 100%. nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roy Brooks Posted May 15, 2006 Members Share Posted May 15, 2006 The other guitar player in one of the bands I play with uses a Japanese SD-1 that he bought back in the day. He sounds good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IndyGuitarist Posted May 15, 2006 Members Share Posted May 15, 2006 Originally posted by imcorn hmm.. is that a .1 microf cap? and wch cap shld one shld i get, there are so many cap choices out there.. http://www.smallbearelec.com/Detail.bok?no=171 can this work for the .1microf cap or shld i get someting else? Yes, it is a .1uf/mf.Cap quality doesn't matter here - it is out of the signal path. I would go with a low voltage cap though - they are smaller and fit better in the pedal.http://www.smallbearelec.com/Categories.bok?category=Capacitors%2C+Low+Voltage+Poly+Film Thanks,Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dmk Posted May 15, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 15, 2006 so i bought one today, brand new.played with it for about 5 minutes when i got home and then got to work on the insides.the difference is amazing.i liked the sd1 stock, but with 91p of components it now sounds so much better.i was going to do the bleedthru mod, but its going in a loop of a gcx and i didnt have a problem with it anyway. for those who are interested, i did the following...C2, C3 and C8 to 0.1uFC6 removedC10 to 10uFR2 to 620kR16 to 100ohmR17 to 10kD5 to an LEDD6 jumperedi tried changing R6 to 2k2, but i found it had a bit too much gain in the lower travel of the know and added a scratyness to the top end. all the changes are taken from varies bits a pieces i've found on the net. any other changes i should consider? thanksdmk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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