Members inscho Posted May 22, 2006 Members Share Posted May 22, 2006 I just bought one of these yesterday: Its 8gb and states it can hold 4,000 songs....which is fortunate because I have 3,696 songs on my computer...But it would only load 1,600 and then the memory was full. How can I convert my mp3s to take up less space so I can fit all of my songs on there? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jasonfuzz Posted May 22, 2006 Members Share Posted May 22, 2006 find a program (try download.com) and have all your songs reduced to 128 kbps (a tolerable bitrate level for the purpose of listening on mp3 players). Some songs might be at 192kbps and take up more room that way. Shave them all down and you should be fine. http://www.download.com/Rippers-Encoders/3150-2140_4-0.html?tag=dir that's a big list of programs you can use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lanefair Posted May 22, 2006 Members Share Posted May 22, 2006 You shouldn't have use the amount of songs as a guide. When they say 4000 they mean 4000 pop tracks at 128kbps. Whereas most people will have 192kbps, 10 minute long Yes tracks on their players. I wouldn't really convert any mp3's to less than 128kbps because if you have any kind of musical ear you'll hear the artifacts in the vocals and drums and it'll bug you. Also the fact that it stopped at such a low number of songs suggests to me that maybe something else may be afoot. But I don't know what. Try highlighting all the tracks that made it on to the player and see how big they all are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members english_bob Posted May 22, 2006 Members Share Posted May 22, 2006 It depends on the kbps (kilobytes per second) quality of the mp3s. If you rip them at the lowest quality, the files are smaller and so take up less disk space. I think the figures they quote for "songs" capacity on mp3 players are normally based on 48kbps quality, which is the lowest. Your media player should be able to tell you what quality your mp3s are, but as for how to change them.... I have no idea, other than ripping them again from CDs BTW, I have a Zen player too- it's the 20gb version and it rocks so much. Good sound quality, good build and very user friendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StratAtak83 Posted May 22, 2006 Members Share Posted May 22, 2006 hey inscho.. you picked the worse mp3 playa out there .. i have one.. and its my desk at work collecting dust .. i hate the micro zen .. why? the headphone jack is extra sensitive .. i used to throw it in my bag and after a few weeks, i could barely hear music and after a while nothing at all .. i gave up .. checked cnet.com and others had teh prob .. its a known design flaw and its about 90 bux to get fixed .. it was a waste of money .. i just record lectures in class with the damn thing .. enjoy it homey.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members inscho Posted May 22, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 22, 2006 Originally posted by jasonfuzz find a program (try download.com) and have all your songs reduced to 128 kbps (a tolerable bitrate level for the purpose of listening on mp3 players). Some songs might be at 192kbps and take up more room that way. Shave them all down and you should be fine.http://www.download.com/Rippers-Encoders/3150-2140_4-0.html?tag=dirthat's a big list of programs you can use excellent, thats what I thought......I have a brand new computer with XP on it, would there be a program on there that could do bitrate reduction? I don't have internet access at my home currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members inscho Posted May 22, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 22, 2006 Originally posted by StratAtak83 hey inscho.. you picked the worse mp3 playa out there .. i have one.. and its my desk at work collecting dust .. i hate the micro zen .. why? the headphone jack is extra sensitive .. i used to throw it in my bag and after a few weeks, i could barely hear music and after a while nothing at all .. i gave up .. checked cnet.com and others had teh prob .. its a known design flaw and its about 90 bux to get fixed .. it was a waste of money .. i just record lectures in class with the damn thing .. enjoy it homey.. Buzzkill....I hate you. But I take extremely good care of my stuff, so perhaps it won't crap out on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members angus_old Posted May 22, 2006 Members Share Posted May 22, 2006 by # of songs they mean the standard 2 minute 50 second pop song at 128kbps. pay no attention to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members angus_old Posted May 22, 2006 Members Share Posted May 22, 2006 Originally posted by inscho excellent, thats what I thought......I have a brand new computer with XP on it, would there be a program on there that could do bitrate reduction? I don't have internet access at my home currently. don't. you'll reduce the quality of your music and it probably still won't all fit. just pick a subset of what you really listen to and put that on. this way you can swap it around occasionally and keep it fresh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members english_bob Posted May 22, 2006 Members Share Posted May 22, 2006 Dumb suggestion, but file format makes a difference too. My Zen won't support .WAV files (which are massive compared to mp3 or .wma (Windows Media Player) anyway), and I believe that .wma files are slightly more efficient than mp3s in terms of kbps vs. file size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jasonfuzz Posted May 22, 2006 Members Share Posted May 22, 2006 I'm trying to figure it out, but no i don't think there is. Your best bet is to probably find a program that you can burn onto cd or floppy disk from work and bring it home. Or just wait until you have net access in your home again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jasonfuzz Posted May 22, 2006 Members Share Posted May 22, 2006 Originally posted by onbongos don't. you'll reduce the quality of your music and it probably still won't all fit. just pick a subset of what you really listen to and put that on. this way you can swap it around occasionally and keep it fresh While that is true, at 8gb, he should be able to fit way more than that. I think it's an issue that his music is encoded at a very high bitrate. If he wants to fit more, then that's his solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members markom89 Posted May 22, 2006 Members Share Posted May 22, 2006 jasonfuzz is a liar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members inscho Posted May 22, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 22, 2006 Originally posted by markom89 jasonfuzz is a liar get out of my thread asshat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StratAtak83 Posted May 22, 2006 Members Share Posted May 22, 2006 Originally posted by inscho Buzzkill....I hate you. I take extremely good care of my stuff so hopefully it won't crap out on me. well if you take care of it ... then no prob.. just be careful.. my mother had it and it worked for months no prob.. guess i was being a thug with it .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members inscho Posted May 22, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 22, 2006 Originally posted by jasonfuzz While that is true, at 8gb, he should be able to fit way more than that. I think it's an issue that his music is encoded at a very high bitrate. If he wants to fit more, then that's his solution. Yeah if I could fit at least 3,000 on there I would be happy. and I am fairly sure that all of the mp3s are at a high bitrate.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jasonfuzz Posted May 22, 2006 Members Share Posted May 22, 2006 a few questions. Are you downloading entire albums off torrents? (or on a one by one basis off programs like soulseek?) Are you using windows media player to rip songs onto your computer from cd? What program do you use if you do rip from cd to computer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members t_e_l_e Posted May 22, 2006 Members Share Posted May 22, 2006 you can reduce the quality of your mp3s-winamp has a plugin for it which is there in the standard installation got to winamp->options->preferences->plugins->outputthere you can select the nullsoft diskwriter. if you use mp3 its limited to 56kbit/s which is very bad. i think its a limitation of the encoder shipped with winamp. propably you can download other plugins from winamp webpage which are better.or you can make wavs with the standardplugin, and den encode them again with audiograbber (google for it and read the instructions) on the other hand 8GB is not really that much space.i bought a 20GB player a couple of years ago, i said juhu i can put all of my music there.i ripped all my cd's to 192kbit which is my min. quality requirement, and it was more than 20Gig. ok i could buy a bigger hardsik or a bigger player and then move all my music on it.... yeah right and pigs fly... in the mean while i have more than 40GB music... and it grows... live with it, don't change the encoding of your existing files, its only a lot of work and it isn't worth, and swap files from time to time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members inscho Posted May 22, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 22, 2006 Originally posted by jasonfuzz a few questions.Are you downloading entire albums off torrents? (or on a one by one basis off programs like soulseek?)Are you using windows media player to rip songs onto your computer from cd? What program do you use if you do rip from cd to computer? one by one and occasionally from my own cds with windows media player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jasonfuzz Posted May 22, 2006 Members Share Posted May 22, 2006 hmm. the windows media player default rip settings are 128. although I think t_e_l_e has a solution you're looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members inscho Posted May 22, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 22, 2006 Originally posted by jasonfuzz hmm. the windows media player default rip settings are 128. although I think t_e_l_e has a solution you're looking for. yeah I will look into that....I only have like 2 or 3 albums ripped directly from cd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aramat effects Posted May 22, 2006 Members Share Posted May 22, 2006 I have a 60 Gig iPod that I am very happy with. I have 56Gigs of music and pictures pictures on there. I haven't done any file compressing other than to mp3 format in iTunes. My iPod says that I still have 18 Gigs available, which is unbelievable but I am not complaining. Right now I have over 2 months of tunes if I listened to it constantly. I had an older iPod for a while (without the "clickwheel") and the 4 top buttons were way too sensitive. I always had to switch on the hold fuction so it wouldn't change songs or turn off when a gust of wind came along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members anti-flag193 Posted May 22, 2006 Members Share Posted May 22, 2006 Originally posted by inscho I just bought one of these yesterday: Its 8gb and states it can hold 4,000 songs....which is fortunate because I have 3,696 songs on my computer...But it would only load 1,600 and then the memory was full. How can I convert my mp3s to take up less space so I can fit all of my songs on there? Thanks how much did that cost you? I want one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members inscho Posted May 22, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 22, 2006 Originally posted by anti-flag193 how much did that cost you? I want one. 189.95 at target + tax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members anti-flag193 Posted May 22, 2006 Members Share Posted May 22, 2006 Originally posted by inscho Buzzkill....I hate you. But I take extremely good care of my stuff, so perhaps it won't crap out on me. I had a 20 gig Creative Zen Touch which {censored} out on me after 6 months. It stuck on the same song and froze up and none of the buttons worked, and when I'd reset it, it would come back on and freeze right back to the same song. Never worked after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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