Members newstrat60 Posted June 22, 2006 Members Share Posted June 22, 2006 Originally posted by zachary vex not everyone uses their hands to switch pedals. 8^) i'm not, well, not everytime Edit : busted ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members alteredsounds Posted June 22, 2006 Members Share Posted June 22, 2006 Originally posted by zachary vex remember smell-o-vision? Could add a new twist to some sites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BmoreTele Posted June 22, 2006 Members Share Posted June 22, 2006 Why? Because the tube factories in Russia are under attack by the mob and there may not be anymore tubes at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lanefair Posted June 22, 2006 Members Share Posted June 22, 2006 Why must we? That's like saying we should eat food in pill form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Narcosynthesis Posted June 22, 2006 Members Share Posted June 22, 2006 Its tempting to take a marshall head, rehouse it in a line6 head and see how many people thing it sounds 'close, but not quite there' David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Robert Keeley Posted June 22, 2006 Members Share Posted June 22, 2006 I'm not saying they're perfect emulators, but....the BD-2 and the Katana have many characteristics that scream tube sound! Give 'em a try! People write back saying that it's so. There are technical reasons as well as to why they do a good job at simulating the tube sound of certain amps and simulating the response of a a tube circuit. I bet the Box of Rocks does it too! Don't underestimate the power of a creative guy whose name starts with Z. Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members joe_lechuza Posted June 22, 2006 Members Share Posted June 22, 2006 Originally posted by zachary vex I'm so glad I have my job back now.. the Rat is on hold! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Klisk Posted June 22, 2006 Members Share Posted June 22, 2006 Fuzz sounds better through solid state amps, to me. Maybe I'm insane. Tube definitely wins in the overdrive department, though. I guess it's all relevant to what you want. I'd definitely appreciate a qualit SS amp. For now I'm happy I have a decent tube amp that's giggable, though. At the end of the day it's probably all that any of us NEED. But we're excessive, indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dot-dot-dot Posted June 22, 2006 Members Share Posted June 22, 2006 Originally posted by Ray18 Yeah, but the dynamics aren't there no touch sensitivity or being able to clean up with the volume knob Dunno. My VG-88 did all that. I imagine the current stuff can too. And that doesn't get around the fact that modellers do sound quite a bit like the amps they emulate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TrashFace Posted June 22, 2006 Members Share Posted June 22, 2006 guitar rig sounds great for tubelike sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members puretube Posted June 22, 2006 Members Share Posted June 22, 2006 whatathread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members justing Posted June 22, 2006 Members Share Posted June 22, 2006 Originally posted by dot-dot-dot Dunno. My VG-88 did all that. I imagine the current stuff can too.And that doesn't get around the fact that modellers do sound quite a bit like the amps they emulate. Do you like the sounds of the VG-88 though? My singer has one and it sounds very 'digital', and nothing like a tube amp (to us at least). IMHO I think there's a lot of solid state amps that sound better as well. Compared against his DSL, or my VC50 and Super Reverb, it's no contest. Another guy I know has a Vetta that sounds a lot better than the VG-88, but it's still missing something. In a band situation, at stage-level volumes, the tube amps still seem to come out on top. The Vetta owner is the first to admit this too, but he prefers the huge amount of options over the tone difference. Myself I see no problem with either...whatever works for ya. I think I have an opposite preference than most though in the way that I would prefer to use a HIGH quality modeler on a recording before I would use it live (though I'd much rather use a good tube amp). I much prefer a tube amp's response and punch live. On recordings you can rarely tell the difference (disclaimer: if it is recorded well with good production). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Help!I'maRock! Posted June 22, 2006 Members Share Posted June 22, 2006 Originally posted by zachary vex cool. now show me a SS amp with a brilliant clean that responds like a tube amp when i put that pedal before it, and i'll check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dot-dot-dot Posted June 22, 2006 Members Share Posted June 22, 2006 Originally posted by justing Do you like the sounds of the VG-88 though? Yup - sounded fine to me. Less noisy than most tube amps too - needs to go through something appropriate though, like a PA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nik Posted June 22, 2006 Members Share Posted June 22, 2006 We can. But companies want to carry on selling expensive tube amps as well as cheap SS amps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators The Eristic Posted June 22, 2006 Moderators Share Posted June 22, 2006 Originally posted by Eddie Too bad they're so expensive Yeah, they aren't cheap, but the circuit is ridiculously complex compared to the average tube amp. Eric Pritchard spent years designing them, and they're so elaborate they take a ton of work to build. They're priced fairly for a wonderful sounding boutique amp with so many unique features, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ray18 Posted June 22, 2006 Author Members Share Posted June 22, 2006 ZVEX, what's so great about that pedal? you can't just post and run without explaining yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Banded-Morwong Posted June 23, 2006 Members Share Posted June 23, 2006 WHy should we bother? We still make tubes. lets keep on making amps to put them in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ray18 Posted June 23, 2006 Author Members Share Posted June 23, 2006 Originally posted by Banded-Morwong WHy should we bother? We still make tubes. lets keep on making amps to put them in mmmhmm last I checked SS amps don't run at 450V and weight 80pounds before you pose the question, ask yourself, how ignorant AM I of the subject ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cackalacky Posted June 23, 2006 Members Share Posted June 23, 2006 I'm totally guilty of this, but it's funny how the majority of us wax poetic about tubes, and yet run multitudes of solid state pedals in front of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brian Marshall Posted June 23, 2006 Members Share Posted June 23, 2006 Originally posted by dot-dot-dot Yup - sounded fine to me. Less noisy than most tube amps too - needs to go through something appropriate though, like a PA. That has been my experience with modelers in general... they either sound good through a PA, or through an effects loop/tube power amp, but not both. the original pod, albiet a bit compressed (which i think they did on purpose to deal with the 16 bit depth) sounded pretty good through studio monitors, or a PA... at least good enough to record a simple demo... Hell i even used it to record a band that paid me money once. It sounded dead through an amp though. I have a boss GX700, and it sounds terrible through a pa or monitors, but it was actually pretty convincing at gigs through my fx loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aerorockjax Posted June 23, 2006 Members Share Posted June 23, 2006 There is also BlueTone solid state amps which have good reviews but i've never tried one. Tech 21 amps are the best ss i've ever played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ray18 Posted June 23, 2006 Author Members Share Posted June 23, 2006 Originally posted by Cackalacky I'm totally guilty of this, but it's funny how the majority of us wax poetic about tubes, and yet run multitudes of solid state pedals in front of them. I don't SS od.dist pedal suck I only use them to save my tubes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fusionid Posted June 23, 2006 Members Share Posted June 23, 2006 Originally posted by Ray18 we can put a man on the moon but we can't make a perfect vacuum tube emulator what specifically do you want as a perfect vamcuum tube emulator? a pedal? an amp? a rack? software? a VST plug in? specify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ray18 Posted June 23, 2006 Author Members Share Posted June 23, 2006 Originally posted by fusionid what specifically do you want as a perfect vamcuum tube emulator?a pedal?an amp?a rack?software? a VST plug in?specify an amp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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