Members papa taco Posted June 26, 2006 Author Members Share Posted June 26, 2006 Originally posted by papa taco Those are very tempting and cool. Hmm...maybe put one into my Blue Angel. Hmmmm. Actually, reading up on the Area51, it sounds like it won't work well with my Blue Angel (especially when run in cathode bias 6v6 mode).Swamp Thang is the answer, me thinks.taco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jonny guitar Posted June 26, 2006 Members Share Posted June 26, 2006 Originally posted by papa taco Actually, reading up on the Area51, it sounds like it won't work well with my Blue Angel (especially when run in cathode bias 6v6 mode). Swamp Thang is the answer, me thinks. taco not to mention you won't even want to play your BA much after your Hayseed arrives and gets all your attention. Pedal means you can use it with all your amps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members papa taco Posted June 26, 2006 Author Members Share Posted June 26, 2006 Originally posted by jonny guitar not to mention you won't even want to play your BA much after your Hayseed arrives and gets all your attention. Pedal means you can use it with all your amps. Yeppers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wyatt Posted June 26, 2006 Members Share Posted June 26, 2006 Originally posted by papa taco Actually, reading up on the Area51, it sounds like it won't work well with my Blue Angel (especially when run in cathode bias 6v6 mode). Swamp Thang is the answer, me thinks. taco I think you have done the research and come up with a good choice. BTW, the Demeter is *supposed* to be a Brownface Trem, but I don't think it quite gets it. It was actually one of my choices for a Blackface style trem.Now, I have Cesar's perfect Brownface trem machine. The Vibramaster was Brownface Trem, Magnatone Vibrato, and Fender outbaord Reverb all rolled into one. Fantastic (and usually around $400 used):But I must admit, I prefer the deeper Blackface trem, if you really want that deep bayou, swampy Ry Cooder type tones, than Blackface is the way to go, IMHO. Brownface is too smooth, lacks the chop Unfortunately, since I sold my SFDR, I have been without. Myself, I am hoping the Catalinread Semaphore will add some BF trem to my Allen Accomplice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members papa taco Posted June 26, 2006 Author Members Share Posted June 26, 2006 Originally posted by Wyatt I've got wood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jonny guitar Posted June 26, 2006 Members Share Posted June 26, 2006 Originally posted by Wyatt I remember reading about this in Guitar Player a long while back....forgot all about them. I want one!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members threm Posted June 26, 2006 Members Share Posted June 26, 2006 Originally posted by Upgrade To my humble ear the Swamp is more brown and the Empress more blackface trem but the Empress does some incredible stuff and goes where no trem has gone-except maybe the Cusack which I have not tried. The Swamp Thang is a one trick pony but it's a sweet trick! For comparison I played with a Seek Trem and really prefer the Empress even if they were the same price and the Empress is much less.That's my take but I'm sure you will find may trem opinions here. . . BmoreTele has tried a boat load! Thanks, Upgrade! I`ve got a few trems still I see both the Empress and the Swamp Thang coming my way before I sort things out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zooey Posted June 26, 2006 Members Share Posted June 26, 2006 The Swamp Thing has a fundamental flaw: all of the commonly used speeds are in the top 25% of the speed knob's travel. Anything below 50% is too slow to be musical. That pretty much makes the half-speed switch useless except in extreme cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members papa taco Posted June 26, 2006 Author Members Share Posted June 26, 2006 Originally posted by Zooey The Swamp Thing has a fundamental flaw: all of the commonly used speeds are in the top 25% of the speed knob's travel. Anything below 50% is too slow to be musical. That pretty much makes the half-speed switch useless except in extreme cases. Papa taco no wanna hear dat!!!Well then, wise ass. What would YOU suggest for a brown trem. Anybody here know much about the Kaden Fluttertone? I listened to some clips of that. It's nice, a bit brighter up top than the swampy Swamp Thang. Perhaps it's more blackface, but it doesn't sound as square wave as the Demeter does to me. It's nicely priced too and has a small footprint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GuyaGuy Posted June 26, 2006 Members Share Posted June 26, 2006 Originally posted by papa taco Well then, wise ass. What would YOU suggest for a brown trem. thank you for asking.the Empress Tremolo has an asymmetrical trem based on a 65 Vibrolux!clips here:http://www.empresseffects.com/tremolo.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members papa taco Posted June 26, 2006 Author Members Share Posted June 26, 2006 Originally posted by GuyaGuy thank you for asking. the Empress Tremolo has an asymmetrical trem based on a 65 Vibrolux! clips here: http://www.empresseffects.com/tremolo.php The sound clips are pretty nice. Got more features than I'd ever use, but it is kind of tempting I'll admit.I like some of the clips of the Semaphore I've heard too. With the 3 way pattern knob and the other knob to tweak it from there I should be able to come up with a good brown-like asymmetrical trem too. I like its smaller footprint and lower cost compared to the Empress.taco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GuyaGuy Posted June 26, 2006 Members Share Posted June 26, 2006 Originally posted by papa taco The sound clips are pretty nice. Got more features than I'd ever use, but it is kind of tempting I'll admit.I like some of the clips of the Semaphore I've heard too. With the 3 way pattern knob and the other knob to tweak it from there I should be able to come up with a good brown-like asymmetrical trem too. I like its smaller footprint and lower cost compared to the Empress.taco yeah, that's what i like about the Pulsar -you can dial in the asymmetry. Semaphore's the same way. on the Pulsar and Semaphore you can also do it in reverse so it's not a ramp wave but a sawtooth. for a true brown sound it seems to me you'd want a bit of coloration--maybe a slight mid boost to simulate the tube warmth. i've read that the Austone does that well but it's pricey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sh333 Posted June 27, 2006 Members Share Posted June 27, 2006 Originally posted by papa taco I like some of the clips of the Semaphore I've heard too. With the 3 way pattern knob and the other knob to tweak it from there I should be able to come up with a good brown-like asymmetrical trem too. I like its smaller footprint and lower cost compared to the Empress. taco Come to Papa, Papa I will have more semas in stock next week.Sincerely,Your Friendly neighbourhood Canuck C-Bread Pimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members papa taco Posted June 27, 2006 Author Members Share Posted June 27, 2006 Originally posted by sh333 Come to Papa, Papa I will have more semas in stock next week. Sincerely, Your Friendly neighbourhood Canuck C-Bread Pimp Hey mang, you sell the Swamp Thang too right? Do you do the send me 2 I send back only one thing?taco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sh333 Posted June 27, 2006 Members Share Posted June 27, 2006 Originally posted by papa taco Hey mang, you sell the Swamp Thang too right? Do you do the send me 2 I send back only one thing? taco I just dropped you a PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members papa taco Posted June 27, 2006 Author Members Share Posted June 27, 2006 Originally posted by sh333 I just dropped you a PM. And I, in turn, just dropped my pants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sh333 Posted June 27, 2006 Members Share Posted June 27, 2006 Originally posted by papa taco And I, in turn, just dropped my pants. Exxxcellent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Gainster Posted June 28, 2006 Members Share Posted June 28, 2006 Originally posted by papa taco And I, in turn, just dropped my pants. Small wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members M900 Posted December 13, 2007 Members Share Posted December 13, 2007 Anybody try a Kaden Fluttertone? I like the clips. Not as swampy as the Swamp Thang, but nice and vintagy still. I like the small price and the small footprint.I don't really need major helicopter chop. I like something that sounds like amp trem, not pedal trem.Trems I've owned:Voodoo Labs 4 knobber. I hated this one. It just sounded hollow and sterile to me.Boss TR-2. Not bad, pretty versatile with the switchable wave function, but the volume drop bugs the {censored} out of me. I could get an AM or Keeley mod, but I still think that tonally I can do better (or at least have a more convincing amp-style trem).taco I looked into the Kaden but decided against it becasue they missplelled tremolo. I couldn't bear to haul around a tremelo pedal ya' know... Seriously, the lack of a hard chop killed it for me. I went with a Red Witch and I think it's awesome. It will do the chop, and the ability to dial in the bass on the repeats makes it sound very much like a vintage trem, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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