Members toneprophet Posted July 5, 2006 Members Share Posted July 5, 2006 I am looking for a good reasonably priced stomp box delay pedal for repro of a tape echo sound and sonic managling, pitch-shifting, time-shifting, and low-grade digital/analog artifacts. Boss DD20-won't self oscillate.Akai Headrush-delay time cannot be adjusted once the tempo is set. Won't self oscillateLine 6 DLL4-sounded digitalH20-won't self oscillate.Boss DD6-no tape echo soundEcho Park-Flimsy knobs, too sensitive when adjustmenting delay settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wilbo26 Posted July 5, 2006 Members Share Posted July 5, 2006 You need a DMM AND a DD-20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hawkeye17 Posted July 5, 2006 Members Share Posted July 5, 2006 Try a Carl Martin Red Repeat. It'll self oscillate and has a great tone knob for control of the repeats sound so you can get a good analog type tone or more digital tones. It sounds amazing for leads in the FX Loop of my Einstein. The best part is the price is great for such a quality pedal($110). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stompboxx Posted July 5, 2006 Members Share Posted July 5, 2006 Unfortunately all the features you want and the phrase 'reasonably priced' don't go together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wilbo26 Posted July 5, 2006 Members Share Posted July 5, 2006 Originally posted by stompboxx Unfortunately all the features you want and the phrase 'reasonably priced' don't go together. Or perhaps a DOD FX-92 or FX-96 along with the DD-20? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gambit Posted July 5, 2006 Members Share Posted July 5, 2006 yeah, maybe one of the DOD analog pedals with the tape quality control? you can mess with the trim pots inside (one of?) them to get extra feedback and time.. pushing it as far as it goes will probably get you some nicely messed up repeats.. or the Marshall Echohead? it does the digital thing fine.. changing the delay time will get you all thos glitchy jumps. the analog setting is beautiful and then you have the tape (fluttery), modulation (phaser sweep) and reverse to play with.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members prosonic Posted July 5, 2006 Members Share Posted July 5, 2006 I'm actually selling a DOD FX96 on Ebay now. I have an AD-900 so I am selling it along with some other stuff to help pay for a Mojo Vibe i ordered. It will self-oscillate quite well. I would also recommend a FX90.I have one of those and it is also very good (I'm not selling mine, it was my first analog delay) another delay I have and would recommend is a Rockson Delaythese are in a boss casing and look rather generic, but have a great tone for slapback and feedback wonderfullythey are very limited in delay time (150-200ms)they can be found quite cheap If you don't need more than 330 ms of time a Boss DM-2 or DM-3 would be a great choice and could be had for close to the price of the DD-20 BTW I use a DD-20 and a Maxon AD-900 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Biz Markie Posted July 5, 2006 Members Share Posted July 5, 2006 How about an Ibanez DE-7? There's pseudo pitch shifting when you adjust the delay rate control. Has an Echo/Analog sim and 2.6ms maximum repeat. Self-oscillates and you should be able to get one for less than $60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tele0507 Posted July 5, 2006 Members Share Posted July 5, 2006 Try one of these & let us no the results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wilbo26 Posted July 5, 2006 Members Share Posted July 5, 2006 Originally posted by tele0507 Try one of these & let us no the results Yes....yes! We need a guinea pig for this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Em3m3 Posted July 5, 2006 Members Share Posted July 5, 2006 DD-20! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PurpleStrat Posted July 5, 2006 Members Share Posted July 5, 2006 Originally posted by Wilbo26 Yes....yes! We need a guinea pig for this one. Those things are huge! I saw a pic in the Guitar Buyers Guide next to some other pedals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members toneprophet Posted July 6, 2006 Author Members Share Posted July 6, 2006 Thanks for the recommendations. The Marshall EH-1 Echohead sounded like a good pedal until I read about the quality issues...The Carl Martin Red Repeat sounds like a great pedal but it a 1 trick pony.What about stomp box delay pedals in the $180-$220 price range? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wilbo26 Posted July 6, 2006 Members Share Posted July 6, 2006 Originally posted by toneprophet Thanks for the recommendations. The Marshall EH-1 Echohead sounded like a good pedal until I read about the quality issues...The Carl Martin Red Repeat sounds like a great pedal but it a 1 trick pony.What about stomp box delay pedals in the $180-$220 price range? In that price range you're looking at a DD-20 or the DL-4. Can't beat the versatility on either of those units, and if you need self oscillation just get a cheap DOD analog delay off ebay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Reaxis Posted July 6, 2006 Members Share Posted July 6, 2006 the de7 is good ... but the switches can be unreliable. i know, i have it, and i use it all the time. it can be frustrating. With all the features you want, it sounds like you need the byoc delay clone. its warm, self oscilates, and is 80 bucks. i have this one too, and its a great sounding delay. the switch is durable too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members therhodeo Posted July 6, 2006 Members Share Posted July 6, 2006 Originally posted by toneprophet Echo Park-Flimsy knobs, too sensitive when adjustmenting delay settings. I've had mine almost as long as they've been out and the knobs have held up and I gig quite a bit. And about the sensitivity, it does take a little bit to get it zeroed in but I've never had problems getting good sounds with just a little time dialing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members toneprophet Posted July 7, 2006 Author Members Share Posted July 7, 2006 Okay it looks like the winners are the Boss DD20 or the Echopark.I had an echopark and I loved the sounds but was really concerned about the reliability. Anyone had any problems with the echopark breaking?From what I have read the DD20 can do everything the echopark can do. And I think the oscillation can be done on the DD20 using the warp or twist feature. Plus its only 179 @ musicians friend now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wilbo26 Posted July 7, 2006 Members Share Posted July 7, 2006 Originally posted by toneprophet Okay it looks like the winners are the Boss DD20 or the Echopark.I had an echopark and I loved the sounds but was really concerned about the reliability. Anyone had any problems with the echopark breaking?From what I have read the DD20 can do everything the echopark can do. And I think the oscillation can be done on the DD20 using the warp or twist feature. Plus its only 179 @ musicians friend now. Thats a great deal on the DD-20 brand new. Go for it. No reliability issues to worry about and easily one of the most popular pedals around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sainty Posted July 7, 2006 Members Share Posted July 7, 2006 Originally posted by toneprophet Echo Park-Flimsy knobs, too sensitive when adjustmenting delay settings. I have an echo park and the knobs aren't flimsy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members toneprophet Posted July 13, 2006 Author Members Share Posted July 13, 2006 My expectations were high for the Boss DD-20, what a disappointment. Sadly the distortion added by the DD-20 and the change the DD-20 made to my tone were not acceptable. For my distorted tones I noticed the DD-20 added a little high end frequency and added some digital distortion. But the deal breaker was the non working LCD...Sent it back. I am leaning towards the Echopark now because of all the stuff you can do with it, the guy I am recording for wants me to do a lot of textures and sound mangling. But my concerns with the Echopark are the flimsy switches, flimsy knobs, a slight thinness in sound, lack of fine tune adjustment to the delay time, and finally the reboot issue I read about on Musicians friend. Has anyone experienced a lot of quality issues with the Echopark? The other delay pedal I am looking at is the H20, but it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members therhodeo Posted July 13, 2006 Members Share Posted July 13, 2006 I don't even know what the reboot issue is. Ive never had any problem with my echo park. I dont even get noise and I use a 1 Spot. About the knobs, obviously it wouldnt stand up to someone standing on it but as long as you take care of it it'll last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dangerous dan Posted July 13, 2006 Members Share Posted July 13, 2006 Originally posted by Hawkeye17 Try a Carl Martin Red Repeat. It'll self oscillate and has a great tone knob for control of the repeats sound so you can get a good analog type tone or more digital tones. It sounds amazing for leads in the FX Loop of my Einstein. The best part is the price is great for such a quality pedal($110). I just tried a Red Repeat this lunchtime and it was a sack of balls, never heard anything so lifeless in all my life. And I couldn't even get it to self oscillate, I tried setting the echo to max but nothing happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members utterhack Posted July 13, 2006 Members Share Posted July 13, 2006 Originally posted by sainty I have an echo park and the knobs aren't flimsy. They sure do feel it when compared with, well, any other pedal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members utterhack Posted July 13, 2006 Members Share Posted July 13, 2006 Originally posted by sainty I have an echo park and the knobs aren't flimsy. They sure do feel it when compared with, well, any other pedal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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