Members jb1911 Posted July 10, 2006 Members Share Posted July 10, 2006 What's the best way to make my Crybaby Classic (the Fazel inductor model) true bypass? Do it myself? Send it to someone? Who do I send it to? Too many questions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DylanWilde Posted July 10, 2006 Members Share Posted July 10, 2006 Um, those are already true bypass, I believe. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Janglin_Jack Posted July 10, 2006 Members Share Posted July 10, 2006 I don't think any of the Dunlops are True Bypass, (at least the last time I called them they said they were only buffer bypass). My Crybaby Classic w/Fasel is not True Bypass. I did a search and found some website that looked like it gave the do-it-yourself mods for the more recent Crybaby Classic. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jay3265E Posted July 10, 2006 Members Share Posted July 10, 2006 They are true bypass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members usa83strat Posted July 10, 2006 Members Share Posted July 10, 2006 the crybaby calssic is already ture bypass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sainty Posted July 10, 2006 Members Share Posted July 10, 2006 they are so cheap on zzounds.com i wish i lived in americ...oh wait, forget it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members utterhack Posted July 10, 2006 Members Share Posted July 10, 2006 It's already True Enough Bypass, but if it'll make you feel better you can paypal me twenty bucks and I'll say I modded it for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wilbo26 Posted July 10, 2006 Members Share Posted July 10, 2006 Are all Crybabys not true bypass? I know the standard one I got back in the 90's was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members POGphile Posted July 11, 2006 Members Share Posted July 11, 2006 Take the cover off and see for yourself. DPDT switch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sainty Posted July 11, 2006 Members Share Posted July 11, 2006 Originally posted by Wilbo26 Are all Crybabys not true bypass? I know the standard one I got back in the 90's was? nope. mine sucks some high end. its it was a 2001 or something. it's so lame or them to sell something like that, at the time i was young and foolish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jb1911 Posted July 11, 2006 Author Members Share Posted July 11, 2006 Take the cover off and see for yourself. Just checked. It IS true bypass! DPDT switch. I ohmed it out and it passed 0 ohm when off and 2.1 when switched on. I also put it in the signal chain backwards and it passes a signal when switched off. If anyone asks, the Dunlop Crybaby model #GCB95F is true bypass. Good thing I didn't send it out to get modded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jb1911 Posted July 11, 2006 Author Members Share Posted July 11, 2006 they are so cheap on zzounds.com i wish i lived in americ...oh wait, forget it. What's that supposed to mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jay3265E Posted July 11, 2006 Members Share Posted July 11, 2006 Originally posted by Wilbo26 Are all Crybabys not true bypass? I know the standard one I got back in the 90's was? Crybaby's are not always true bypass. In fact I think only the Classic and one other model are TB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members utterhack Posted July 11, 2006 Members Share Posted July 11, 2006 Originally posted by jb1911 Good thing I didn't send it out to get modded. So no twenty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sainty Posted July 11, 2006 Members Share Posted July 11, 2006 Originally posted by jb1911 What's that supposed to mean? For a second I forgot about Dub-yah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jasevenny Posted July 11, 2006 Members Share Posted July 11, 2006 Originally posted by jay3265E Crybaby's are not always true bypass. In fact I think only the Classic and one other model are TB. The 535Q? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jb1911 Posted July 11, 2006 Author Members Share Posted July 11, 2006 For a second I forgot about Dub-yah Why does it always get around to this? Can't we just talk about effects? I don't make fun of your has-been socialist country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members eddieharver Posted July 12, 2006 Members Share Posted July 12, 2006 I did a post a little before this one...and I was wondering the same thing about the bypass. Well, it may have a bypass but it really sucks. How about any modification that can turn off the effect from the crybaby. A similar project where the crybaby was bypassed. Check that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Janglin_Jack Posted July 20, 2006 Members Share Posted July 20, 2006 For anyone interested, I emailed Dunlop again and they confirmed that none of their wah pedals are True Bypass. Below is the email I got back from Dunlop. Hello, None of our pedals are true bypass. The GCB95ZF is a hardwire bypass. Thanks, Anthony Ngo, Technical Support Thanks, Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members andreas Posted July 20, 2006 Members Share Posted July 20, 2006 Originally posted by jb1911 Just checked. It IS true bypass! DPDT switch. I ohmed it out and it passed 0 ohm when off and 2.1 when switched on. I also put it in the signal chain backwards and it passes a signal when switched off. If anyone asks, the Dunlop Crybaby model #GCB95F is true bypass. Good thing I didn't send it out to get modded. Although... the tests you did actually doesn't prove anything. A regular Crybaby will do exactly the same thing, as it too has a direct (or hard-wired, as Dunlop likes to call it) link from input to output in bypass mode. What matters is if the switch disconnects the wah circuit from the input or not, and the only way to find that out is to open the pedal up and trace the circuit. Originally posted by Janglin_JackFor anyone interested, I emailed Dunlop again and they confirmed that none of their wah pedals are True Bypass. Below is the email I got back from Dunlop. Hello, None of our pedals are true bypass. The GCB95ZF is a hardwire bypass. Thanks, Anthony Ngo, Technical Support Thanks, Jack This is interesting on several levels. First off, it's the first time I've heard someone from Dunlop accnowledge that there is a difference between their bypass system ("hardwire") and true bypass. Second, I've heard so many reports of the Classic and 535Q being the odd men out, as the only two Dunlop/MXR pedals with proper true bypass. But I suppose the only way to find out for real is to take one home and pull it apart... anyone in Sweden/Europe who wans to volunteer theirs? /Andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members usa83strat Posted July 20, 2006 Members Share Posted July 20, 2006 Originally posted by andreas Although... the tests you did actually doesn't prove anything. A regular Crybaby will do exactly the same thing, as it too has a direct (or hard-wired, as Dunlop likes to call it) link from input to output in bypass mode. What matters is if the switch disconnects the wah circuit from the input or not, and the only way to find that out is to open the pedal up and trace the circuit. This is interesting on several levels. First off, it's the first time I've heard someone from Dunlop accnowledge that there is a difference between their bypass system ("hardwire") and true bypass. Second, I've heard so many reports of the Classic and 535Q being the odd men out, as the only two Dunlop/MXR pedals with proper true bypass. But I suppose the only way to find out for real is to take one home and pull it apart... anyone in Sweden/Europe who wans to volunteer theirs? /Andreas i can post detailed pics of the inside of the pedal, when i get home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members andreas Posted July 20, 2006 Members Share Posted July 20, 2006 I have a bunch of gut shots already, but they might be interesting for others to see. What I'd really need to do is follow the signal with a multimeter. Measure the resistance from the input jack (tip of a patch cable will do fine) to the input of the circuit (a bit of circuit tracing is needed to find that point on the pcb), click the switch and measure again. A true bypass should measure 0 ohms in active mode, and infinite resistance in bypass mode. The regular Dunlop/MXR bypass system (also known as "half-arsed bypass" or "output switching only") will read 0 ohms regardless of what the switch does. From the pics I've seen, the Classic *could* be wired for TB - there's four wires to/from the switch, which is the bare minimum (input, output, send and return to/from the circuit). But that is not conclusive proof - the only way to know for sure is to open it up and measure... /Andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SeeMoore Posted July 22, 2006 Members Share Posted July 22, 2006 A true bypass pedal would let the signal through without a power source (battery). So take out the duracell and see if you get signal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members halcyon360 Posted July 22, 2006 Members Share Posted July 22, 2006 Originally posted by SeeMoore A true bypass pedal would let the signal through without a power source (battery).So take out the duracell and see if you get signal. No a hardwire bypass will do that too. So the battery test really doesn't prove anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SeeMoore Posted July 22, 2006 Members Share Posted July 22, 2006 Originally posted by halcyon360 No a hardwire bypass will do that too. So the battery test really doesn't prove anything. Didn't know that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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