Members cfordummies Posted November 18, 2006 Members Share Posted November 18, 2006 Hey, I have a few general questions about this thing. It sounds like it could be a really useful learning and writing tool for someone who has no band. My first question is how does it record guitar: is it direct in or do you have to use a microphone? Or can you do both? And if that's the case, does one method sound better than the other? Also, most importantly, how is the sound quality when you play it back? My other question: in general, is this thing any good? Is there a better alternative for a similar price? Is it any better than the much smaller Boss RC-2 Loop Station Effect Pedal? Thanks for your help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tele0507 Posted November 18, 2006 Members Share Posted November 18, 2006 I had the 20xl and retuned it , I just got the rc-2 and I amgoing to return it also. I am going to try the E.H. 2880 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gregovertone Posted November 18, 2006 Members Share Posted November 18, 2006 if you find one used for $200, and don't plan on using it on a pedal board....its a deal.... its better tan the rc2 for fast moving/overdubbing songwriting and looping. its worse than the rc2 on a pedalboard due to the built-in preamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fridgebuzz Posted November 19, 2006 Members Share Posted November 19, 2006 Originally posted by cfordummies My first question is how does it record guitar: is it direct in or do you have to use a microphone? Or can you do both? And if that's the case, does one method sound better than the other? Also, most importantly, how is the sound quality when you play it back? Hmm. What do you mean? You play electric guitar? You just plug it in. You play acoustic guitar with a mic? You just plug it in. You sing? You just plug the mic in. (Theres two inputs, one for guitar, one for mic, with individual volume controls for each). The sound quality is good, never noticed anything. And I'd think that the RC20XL is easier to use than RC-2. I've had no problems with my RC20XL what so ever, I've used it for 8 months or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cfordummies Posted November 19, 2006 Author Members Share Posted November 19, 2006 I have another (stupid) question. Do you have to create a small looping pattern or can you just play a full three minute chord progression and solo over that? Or say you create a loop and you want it to play four times and then move on to a different chord progression, is that possible? Could you create a whole song with this thing? It may seem self-explanitory but I've never used anything like this before, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fridgebuzz Posted November 19, 2006 Members Share Posted November 19, 2006 Originally posted by cfordummies I have another (stupid) question. Do you have to create a small looping pattern or can you just play a full three minute chord progression and solo over that? Or say you create a loop and you want it to play four times and then move on to a different chord progression, is that possible? Could you create a whole song with this thing? Ok. 1) yes, you can create a three minute loop. The Boss Loop Station has something like 16 minutes of recording time. Your loops can be anywhere from like half a second to several minutes (up to that 16 min i guess, if only one layer and with no saved loops). 2) Yes. You can switch between (up and down) on 11 saved loops (which in turn can off course have several layers of sounds), but you'll have to buy a dual footswitch to be able to scroll through the saved loops, like this: http://www.zzounds.com/item--ROLFS6(If you don't have a footswitch, you can scroll through the saved loops by hand, theres a dial on the pedal). You can also control how the loop ends/switches to another loop, you can have it switch instantly, at the end of the loop or fade-out. So technically it is possible to have a whole song in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cfordummies Posted November 19, 2006 Author Members Share Posted November 19, 2006 Cool, thanks a bunch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fridgebuzz Posted November 19, 2006 Members Share Posted November 19, 2006 Originally posted by cfordummies Cool, thanks a bunch! You're welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dangerous dan Posted November 19, 2006 Members Share Posted November 19, 2006 Originally posted by fridgebuzz 2) Yes. You can switch between (up and down) on 11 saved loops (which in turn can off course have several layers of sounds), but you'll have to buy a dual footswitch to be able to scroll through the saved loops, like this: http://www.zzounds.com/item--ROLFS6(If you don't have a footswitch, you can scroll through the saved loops by hand, theres a dial on the pedal). You can also control how the loop ends/switches to another loop, you can have it switch instantly, at the end of the loop or fade-out. So technically it is possible to have a whole song in there. Anone know if the Digitech Jamman has the ability to scroll between loops in the same way as this ?I need to get a looper for home use and I am 50:50 on either the Boss or the Digitech !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tele0507 Posted November 19, 2006 Members Share Posted November 19, 2006 Originally posted by dangerous dan Anone know if the Digitech Jamman has the ability to scroll between loops in the same way as this ? I need to get a looper for home use and I am 50:50 on either the Boss or the Digitech !! http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ElectroHarmonix-2880-Super-MultiTrack-Looper?sku=153338 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cfordummies Posted November 20, 2006 Author Members Share Posted November 20, 2006 A scant $400! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members orourke Posted November 20, 2006 Members Share Posted November 20, 2006 Originally posted by tele0507 I had the 20xl and retuned it , I just got the rc-2 and I am going to return it also. I am going to try the E.H. 2880 It would be more helpful if you stated why you returned those two units. Did you think that had bad sound quality; to difficult to loop, not enough memory, you didn't like the color of the box?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BBTweed Posted November 20, 2006 Members Share Posted November 20, 2006 Originally posted by tele0507 http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ElectroHarmonix-2880-Super-MultiTrack-Looper?sku=153338 Does anyone know why it's called the 2880? Or, just give me a witty reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cfordummies Posted November 20, 2006 Author Members Share Posted November 20, 2006 Originally posted by orourke It would be more helpful if you stated why you returned those two units. Did you think that had bad sound quality; to difficult to loop, not enough memory, you didn't like the color of the box?... +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tele0507 Posted November 20, 2006 Members Share Posted November 20, 2006 Originally posted by orourke It would be more helpful if you stated why you returned those two units. Did you think that had bad sound quality; to difficult to loop, not enough memory, you didn't like the color of the box?... sound quality and its either distortion or clean , not both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members seifukusha Posted November 20, 2006 Members Share Posted November 20, 2006 Originally posted by tele0507 sound quality and its either distortion or clean , not both. is that so bad? how should it be? there is no preamp on the 2, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Televator Posted November 20, 2006 Members Share Posted November 20, 2006 Originally posted by tele0507 sound quality and its either distortion or clean , not both. What does that mean? Does the RC-2 distort the signal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members light years Posted November 20, 2006 Members Share Posted November 20, 2006 i just got a dd-20 and the looper is so great! yes you cant save loops but for a live looper its going to be easy. and when you layer loops its reall clear, doesnt mud up. im love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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