Members gil1 Posted December 1, 2006 Members Share Posted December 1, 2006 I drew up the design of my pedalboard, before I build it, so I can get all the problems out. I'm not sure if you can see on the screen, but I thought I'd have slats, like the Pedaltrain, and raised platforms. The Pedal Powers are screened back because they will be inside the board, so I've got space for a few more modulation effects on the top row. I was wondering a few things, opinion-wise: 1. Do you guys think 18" x 36" is too big for a board? 2.Have you ever seen a board with three rows of pedals? Does that seem like a good idea? 3. Is there no point in haveing both slots and raised platforms? 4. When you wire up boards, do you go back and forth, or up and down, or ...? 5. Any suggestions for modulation and echo? I think the DMM won't last too long. I was thinking a Red Whitch Phase and an Echozar, but that would be down the road, on acounta the fact that they cost boatloads, and I don't have boatloads. TNX for any input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Alanfc Posted December 1, 2006 Members Share Posted December 1, 2006 I've never gone about it this way, I mean having alot to put on a board from the start. I've always just added on & on. But maybe you could stack/velcro the PP2's on top of one antoher and get the DMM on the board. Is it angled? Does it have a lid. These are all considerations (I sound smart eh) I always find that I have to shift things after a rehearsal or 2, based on how easy things were to stomp when I needed them. A third (middle) row ? I don't know, you need to think about your heel hitting the knobs on the bottom row. Alot to think about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jaymeister Posted December 1, 2006 Members Share Posted December 1, 2006 That's a pretty big board. I had a 36" x 20" 2 tier board with slats about 4 years ago and it was too big. The thing weighed 80lbs loaded with the lid. I see you have two PP2's. Do you need both? I bet you could combine some pedals on one tap with custom daisy chains, and get it down to one PP2. The slats work well for concealing all the cabling. If it was me, and I was pushing up to that sized board today, I would look at ditching the volume, and moving the wah off the board altogether. The varidrive and Medusa are monsters, and take up too much room, and seem to be driving the enormous girth. Also, where's your tuner? These are just my opinions, having visited large board land and come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GuyaGuy Posted December 1, 2006 Members Share Posted December 1, 2006 Originally posted by gil1 I drew up the design of my pedalboard, before I build it, so I can get all the problems out. I'm not sure if you can see on the screen, but I thought I'd have slats, like the Pedaltrain, and raised platforms. The Pedal Powers are screened back because they will be inside the board, so I've got space for a few more modulation effects on the top row. I was wondering a few things, opinion-wise: 1. Do you guys think 18" x 36" is too big for a board? 2.Have you ever seen a board with three rows of pedals? Does that seem like a good idea? 3. Is there no point in haveing both slots and raised platforms? 4. When you wire up boards, do you go back and forth, or up and down, or ...? 5. Any suggestions for modulation and echo? I think the DMM won't last too long. I was thinking a Red Whitch Phase and an Echozar, but that would be down the road, on acounta the fact that they cost boatloads, and I don't have boatloads. TNX for any input. 1. it's huge. i just got a 13x24-ish SKB to replace the 21x34x8 that i had because it was ridiculous. 2. yeah but it seems really impractical--esp with pedals behind a wah or vol. 3. depends. 4. jumpers or power? 5. DM-2? may not be a badidea to have a buffer at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NITEFLY182 Posted December 1, 2006 Members Share Posted December 1, 2006 I think you could take about 10 inches of the width and still fit everything. As far as 3 rows is concerned it depends. Places on my board have 3 pedals one above the other and they work well. It all depends on how easily you can access them. I think you could easily fit most of that on a PT Pro with one PP2 mounted underneath. Ive learned that volume pedals are a waste so just get rid of that unless its essential. As far as overall size, I think 18" is really deep so I would go for less depth. I once had a 20x40 board and it was murder for size and weight. Good luck but I think you could tighten that up a lot and cut down on some of those distortion pedals. You have 8 drives and only 15 pedals. That is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NITEFLY182 Posted December 1, 2006 Members Share Posted December 1, 2006 Originally posted by GuyaGuy 1. it's huge. i just got a 13x24-ish SKB to replace the 21x34x8 that i had because it was ridiculous.2. yeah but it seems really impractical--esp with pedals behind a wah or vol.3. depends.4. jumpers or power?5. DM-2? may not be a badidea to have a buffer at the end. Buffer should go at the beginning to drive all that length, not to try and recover from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Alex D Posted December 1, 2006 Members Share Posted December 1, 2006 hey gil do you use set combination's of pedals? If so you could make a few modular boards and use a multi loop looper as a controller for each board? That seem pretty big if it were me. I would go modular rather then just one big board, but I also use my amps loop so it wouldn't be practical to have then all on one board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GuyaGuy Posted December 1, 2006 Members Share Posted December 1, 2006 Originally posted by NITEFLY182 Buffer should go at the beginning to drive all that length, not to try and recover from it. yeah i know but i figure with 14 TB pedals a buffer anywhere in the chain would be some help. otoh, some swear by one at the end. *shrug* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gil1 Posted December 1, 2006 Author Members Share Posted December 1, 2006 The thing is, I don't play out. It's basicly a studio board, so carrying it is'nt an issue. If I did play out, I'd be tenpted to grab a Tim and go. Still, It would be nice to not build an untransportable monster. I was hoping to build it, and set it in front of my amp, and have a lot of tones on tap when I'm recording. There are a few pedals on there I don't have yet - I've only got one PP2, and I'm looking for a Pale Green and an Emerald Green. Unfortunately, Alex, none of my amps have loops. I would consider getting a rack mount M-one to do delay, chorus ect, if I did have a loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gil1 Posted December 1, 2006 Author Members Share Posted December 1, 2006 Originally posted by GuyaGuy yeah i know but i figure with 14 TB pedals a buffer anywhere in the chain would be some help. otoh, some swear by one at the end. *shrug* The HotCake is a buffer, and really fixes a lot of things by having it on the end. I almost got rid of the Eternity and the HoneyBee (both had these weak ass high ends) untill I put the HotCake at the end. It was a big Eureka moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bucketboy Posted December 1, 2006 Members Share Posted December 1, 2006 You have some really nice pedals lined up for you there. Nice taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gil1 Posted December 1, 2006 Author Members Share Posted December 1, 2006 Thanks. I tried to get some things that would help tracking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hbar Posted December 1, 2006 Members Share Posted December 1, 2006 If it's for recording, then I'd definitely put the non tb's through a tb strip. There's no sense in recording through pedals that aren't being used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Alex D Posted December 1, 2006 Members Share Posted December 1, 2006 Originally posted by hbar If it's for recording, then I'd definitely put the non tb's through a tb strip. There's no sense in recording through pedals that aren't being used. another good reason to go the looper route Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ZJD Posted December 1, 2006 Members Share Posted December 1, 2006 Dang gil, you've been holding out on us! Cool pedals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gil1 Posted December 2, 2006 Author Members Share Posted December 2, 2006 Originally posted by Alex D another good reason to go the looper route I think all of those are True Bypass. Why a looper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gil1 Posted December 2, 2006 Author Members Share Posted December 2, 2006 Originally posted by ZJD Dang gil, you've been holding out on us! Cool pedals! TNX. Nice Avitar. Does she become dead if you stare at her or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ZJD Posted December 2, 2006 Members Share Posted December 2, 2006 Originally posted by gil1 TNX. Nice Avitar. Does she become dead if you stare at her or something? If only Phil were here, he'd change my title to something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GuyaGuy Posted December 2, 2006 Members Share Posted December 2, 2006 Originally posted by gil1 I think all of those are True Bypass. Why a looper? because between each of the 14 pedals you have a cable that's at least 6". that's 13 6" cables which equals 78" of cable. that's not counting the internal wires in the boxes or your cable from your guitar or to your amp. the longer the signal has to travel, the more signal loss there is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gil1 Posted December 2, 2006 Author Members Share Posted December 2, 2006 Originally posted by GuyaGuy because between each of the 14 pedals you have a cable that's at least 6". that's 13 6" cables which equals 78" of cable. that's not counting the internal wires in the boxes or your cable from your guitar or to your amp. the longer the signal has to travel, the more signal loss there is. Hmm, I've been kind of ignoring that part on my pedalboard. I was really picky with the cabing for mystudio, but I guess I hoped to block the pedalboard part out. I don't know why the idea of a looper bugs me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Armoredfist316 Posted December 2, 2006 Members Share Posted December 2, 2006 I dont think ive heard you talk about anny of your pedals befoe. Do you have a board now? It seems pretty big, but i dont think its unmanigable. Mine is 36" X 14" IIRC and its heavy but not that bad. If its just a studio board i dont think 3 rows would be bad either. I say go for it:thu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GuyaGuy Posted December 2, 2006 Members Share Posted December 2, 2006 Originally posted by gil1 Hmm, I've been kind of ignoring that part on my pedalboard. I was really picky with the cabing for mystudio, but I guess I hoped to block the pedalboard part out. I don't know why the idea of a looper bugs me. loopers are fun! i use it a lot if i want 2 pedals to be switched on simultaneously. i got the Tonefactor one, which is a feedback/looper and the feedback adds some extra experimental delight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gil1 Posted December 2, 2006 Author Members Share Posted December 2, 2006 Originally posted by Armoredfist316 I dont think ive heard you talk about anny of your pedals befoe. Do you have a board now? It seems pretty big, but i dont think its unmanigable. Mine is 36" X 14" IIRC and its heavy but not that bad. If its just a studio board i dont think 3 rows would be bad either. I say go for it:thu: I don't have a board now. I've been trying and swapping pedals aggresivly for about a year, and I'm begining to see some fit, so I though now was time. Plus I have a pile of 3/4 Plywood from house renovations left over, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gil1 Posted December 2, 2006 Author Members Share Posted December 2, 2006 Originally posted by GuyaGuy loopers are fun! i use it a lot if i want 2 pedals to be switched on simultaneously. i got the Tonefactor one, which is a feedback/looper and the feedback adds some extra experimental delight! Meby I need to try one. It prolly won't harm anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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