Members therhodeo Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=200747 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members angus_old Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 my cable had a knot in it the other day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members therhodeo Posted January 3, 2007 Author Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Originally posted by onbongos my cable had a knot in it the other day My thoughts exactly. I use like 10 different brands of cable and none of them expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YourHerodDGC Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 What the hell? Guitar amps should be turned up loud enough so it's just about hurting everyone's ears. At that volume, you shouldn't be able to notice subtle differences (however existant they may be). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CapnMarvel Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Jesus. If these guys spent half as much time practicing scales as they do worrying about 'mid range sparkle', they'd be touring with Billy Cobham now. What cunts. What's next, how different pickguard screws affect tone? High-end replacement control knobs for your amp for 'hi fidelity'? Aggh! *Head explodes* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members angus_old Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Originally posted by YourHerodDGC What the hell? Guitar amps should be turned up loud enough so it's just about hurting everyone's ears. At that volume, you shouldn't be able to notice subtle differences (however existant they may be). but the vibrations might damage their wives' precious moments collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members therhodeo Posted January 3, 2007 Author Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Originally posted by onbongos but the vibrations might damage their wives' precious moments collection You suck. My boss walked in because I was laughing so hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoboPimp Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 GCDEF to save the day: Sounds good and all, but with the signal in a guitar cable being alternate current, and therefore traveling both directions equally in the cable, your theory is bunk. You may be yanking our chain, or you may be deluding yourself, I don't know, but set up a blind or double blind test and you'll find yourself the victim of a hyperactive imagination. textbook case of psychoacoustics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hbar Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Me thinks GCDEF is cruising for a gearpage-style bruising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members therhodeo Posted January 3, 2007 Author Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Originally posted by hbar Me thinks GCDEF is cruising for a gearpage-style bruising. I dont know on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChitownTerror Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Originally posted by hbar Me thinks GCDEF is cruising for a gearpage-style bruising. Is that where they hit you with a pillow-case full of vintage tubescreamers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sir H C Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 The only cables that make a difference in polarity are those that have a ground lift on one end, then you get more hum one way or the other. Used sometimes to interconnect PA and studio gear. Otherwise, it is a friggin AC signal with no DC component so it should make no difference. I can see it "You will all be graded on this, which direction sounds better"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members angus_old Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 "By reversing cables I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Uma Floresta Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Yeah, psychoacoustics are a bitch. Because of the internets, I spend far more time worrying about tone than about music. This is a sobering lesson for me. I could be that guy some day if I'm not careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members therhodeo Posted January 3, 2007 Author Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Originally posted by Uma Floresta Yeah, psychoacoustics are a bitch. Because of the internets, I spend far more time worrying about tone than about music. This is a sobering lesson for me. I could be that guy some day if I'm not careful. Its not hard to do. Especially since the perceived ability to hear tone better than others is like a medal of honor to some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Yarmo Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Originally posted by onbongos "By reversing cables I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ZJD Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Where's the thread with the guy that tested a bunch of diff picks for the best tone??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members therhodeo Posted January 3, 2007 Author Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Originally posted by ZJD Where's the thread with the guy that tested a bunch of diff picks for the best tone??? That was me but it wasnt all about tone. I never did it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members letterswewrote Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 that thread was bat-{censored} crazy... a better idea for a "high-end class at berklee" would be having the students write some {censored}ing songs rather than sitting around listening to you switch around the direction of your patch cables... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members opultaM Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Originally posted by onbongos "By reversing cables I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Uma Floresta Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Originally posted by therhodeo Its not hard to do. Especially since the perceived ability to hear tone better than others is like a medal of honor to some people. I'm not in it for teh interw3bz gl0ry, though. I'm in it to insure I have no spending money left at any time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members therhodeo Posted January 3, 2007 Author Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Originally posted by letterswewrote that thread was bat-shit crazy... a better idea for a "high-end class at berklee" would be having the students write some fucking songs rather than sitting around listening to you switch around the direction of your patch cables... Songs. Who needs songs when you can play 451 notes per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members angus_old Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Originally posted by opultaM One example is static electricity. Know how if you rub a balloon on your hair, the hair stands up? Well try covering the baloon with lube, and then rub it on your hair. No spike right? This is because the lube has eliminated the static electricity that caused your hair to stand on end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NITEFLY182 Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 1. Many music school teach students to be playing machines, not songwriting machines. They train them to be able to record a new piece of music in the studio in 5 minutes in the way the producer wants it recorded.2. Guitar signal is electricity which travels at the speed of light. He is not hearing a difference in what he calls frequency latency. 3. Whenever we aren't playing well or we dont think our gear sounds good, we look for the reason. Some people trick themselves into thinking that reversing a cable was the problem. Others just go outside and play for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LavaMan Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 1. If the guy feels his rig sounds better because his cables are facing one way then sobeit - the interesting thing though is that none of the cables he is using make claims of directionality. 2. His argument for cable direction impact can be easily compared to those who prefer a particular order to their pedals - I have read numerous threads on this forum questioning which is the correct way....bottom line: IF IT SOUNDS GOOD TO THE USER THEN IT IS GOOD! 3. Lifting the shield on the source end (guitar) of 2-4 conductor cable has long been an accepted practice in studios for many, many years and definitely can have have an impact as RFI/EMI is dissipated itno the shield before reaching your guitar pickups. 4. I have sold lots, and lots of directional cables (1,000's) and not ONE person has indicated to me that their cables sound worse in the direction they are facing...so make fun of the guy if you want, he's no different than anyone extoling the virtues of a certain tube type over another or a certain speaker over another even different pickups over others.... What I find very interesting on this forum and others is how one piece of the tone chain is qualified as more important than others. You laugh at folks describing the effects of a cable on their tone, but when they and others use essentially the same words to describe how thier pickups, strings, amps and guitars sound it's OK....no logic in that as EVERY piece of your tonal chain is important... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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