Members Remedy Posted January 10, 2007 Members Share Posted January 10, 2007 How do you run 2 amps at once? Is it just a stereo(?) guitar cord or do you need an AB box ? please enlighten me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members veil Posted January 10, 2007 Members Share Posted January 10, 2007 Either could work. Or, you could use an effect pedal with multiple outs, like a stereo chorus or stereo delay. But for straight sound, ABY's work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members theweight Posted January 10, 2007 Members Share Posted January 10, 2007 There are plenty of ways to do it. If you want to run them at the same time a simple a/b box won't do. You can either run both using the stereo outs of any pedal with them, or you can use an a/b/y box, which will let you run both at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fast Frets Posted January 10, 2007 Members Share Posted January 10, 2007 If you were to run into phase or ground loop problems you could check here or here , or some other switchers by Radial. :) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Remedy Posted January 10, 2007 Author Members Share Posted January 10, 2007 thanks guys.Stereo out of a pedal you say? interesting.I'll try it with my DD20. should be fun one amp clean, one amp dirty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members veil Posted January 10, 2007 Members Share Posted January 10, 2007 Originally posted by Remedy thanks guys. Stereo out of a pedal you say? interesting. I'll try it with my DD20. should be fun one amp clean, one amp dirty Yeah it's tons of fun. Keep in mind though, if you're using your DD-20 stereo outs, you're only going to be able to use both amps simultaneously. Using an ABY switcher will let you use both, but will also let you switch between one amp and the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Remedy Posted January 10, 2007 Author Members Share Posted January 10, 2007 Originally posted by veil Yeah it's tons of fun. Keep in mind though, if you're using your DD-20 stereo outs, you're only going to be able to use both amps simultaneously. Using an ABY switcher will let you use both, but will also let you switch between one amp and the other. yup, got it. thanks.at this stage I just want to muck around with a 'layered' guitar sound just to see what its like. Something with drive, but also clean sound for clarity/definiton is the plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members erksin Posted January 10, 2007 Members Share Posted January 10, 2007 Originally posted by Remedy yup, got it. thanks. at this stage I just want to muck around with a 'layered' guitar sound just to see what its like. Something with drive, but also clean sound for clarity/definiton is the plan. If ypu're using ODs before the DD-20, you won't be able to run the second amp clean... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members veil Posted January 10, 2007 Members Share Posted January 10, 2007 Originally posted by Remedy yup, got it. thanks. at this stage I just want to muck around with a 'layered' guitar sound just to see what its like. Something with drive, but also clean sound for clarity/definiton is the plan. Awesome, have fun. It was a revelation the first time I did it. Incredibly thick, textured sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Remedy Posted January 10, 2007 Author Members Share Posted January 10, 2007 Originally posted by erksin If ypu're using ODs before the DD-20, you won't be able to run the second amp clean... ah, very good point. you've given me an idea to experiment with too Its going to be marshall 6100lm on a drive channel and laney lc30 clean channel for clean.idea = put both amps on cleanish but different sounds and use an OD in front of dd20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Remedy Posted January 10, 2007 Author Members Share Posted January 10, 2007 Originally posted by veil Awesome, have fun. It was a revelation the first time I did it. Incredibly thick, textured sounds. Is it worth playing gigs or recording that way or not really worth the effort? I wonder if many 'big artists' use 2 amps simultaneously to get their sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members veil Posted January 10, 2007 Members Share Posted January 10, 2007 Originally posted by Remedy Is it worth playing gigs or recording that way or not really worth the effort?I wonder if many 'big artists' use 2 amps simultaneously to get their sound. It depends on how much you're willing to drag to a gig. For instance, I love the sound of my Peavey and Mesa together, but would I really drag a quarter stack and a combo to every show? Probably not. For recording, though, it's definitely worth it to layer many different amps, and you'll probably find that many rock producers will use this method to get thick, creamy overdrive sounds. One well known guitarist who uses multiple amps live is Adam Jones from Tool. I think he uses a Mesa, a Diezel, and a Marshall all at once, or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Remedy Posted January 10, 2007 Author Members Share Posted January 10, 2007 Originally posted by veil It depends on how much you're willing to drag to a gig. For instance, I love the sound of my Peavey and Mesa together, but would I really drag a quarter stack and a combo to every show? Probably not. For recording, though, it's definitely worth it to layer many different amps, and you'll probably find that many rock producers will use this method to get thick, creamy overdrive sounds. One well known guitarist who uses multiple amps live is Adam Jones from Tool. I think he uses a Mesa, a Diezel, and a Marshall all at once, or something like that. hm, yeah youre right about the gear lug. The novelty would wear off pretty quick no matter how good it sounded I have to start experimenting. We're actually recording a demo at the moment , Im new to recording, but I'll muck around with layering.thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members anti-flag193 Posted January 10, 2007 Members Share Posted January 10, 2007 Originally posted by Remedy Is it worth playing gigs or recording that way or not really worth the effort?I wonder if many 'big artists' use 2 amps simultaneously to get their sound. I drag two halfstack to every show. I looooove how it sounds. I use a Tonebone Switchbone aby with great results. Also has a boost on it which sounds good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Remedy Posted January 10, 2007 Author Members Share Posted January 10, 2007 Originally posted by anti-flag193 I drag two halfstack to every show. I looooove how it sounds. I use a Tonebone Switchbone aby with great results. Also has a boost on it which sounds good. interesting. how are you running your 2 amps?1 for clean and 1 for dirty and boost on the aby for lead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members anti-flag193 Posted January 10, 2007 Members Share Posted January 10, 2007 Originally posted by Remedy interesting. how are you running your 2 amps?1 for clean and 1 for dirty and boost on the aby for lead? Nah, one on either side of the stage set for a crunch. Boosted with either a OCD or fuzz pedal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members theweight Posted January 10, 2007 Members Share Posted January 10, 2007 Originally posted by anti-flag193 Nah, one on either side of the stage set for a crunch. Boosted with either a OCD or fuzz pedal. For bands with one guitar player this is the way to go, especially if you are good with the a/b/y and can cut one amp out when it cuts off to just guitar. Makes a huge impact when you hit that switch and the other amp kicks in with the rythm section. I did it for awhile before my old band got a second guitarist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members anti-flag193 Posted January 10, 2007 Members Share Posted January 10, 2007 Originally posted by theweight For bands with one guitar player this is the way to go, especially if you are good with the a/b/y and can cut one amp out when it cuts off to just guitar. Makes a huge impact when you hit that switch and the other amp kicks in with the rythm section. I did it for awhile before my old band got a second guitarist. Word, it just sound so much fuller and bigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lostandfoundpdx Posted January 10, 2007 Members Share Posted January 10, 2007 i was in a two man band for a while, and i would set up the second amp set up with full out balls gain, and just kick it in to rock. i had a special a/b built so my mesa rectoverb was on all the time, and my ss marshall head would kick i for the big {censored} when i needed more ooomph. i am thinking about going back to a two amp system... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members erksin Posted January 10, 2007 Members Share Posted January 10, 2007 Dual amps are the {censored} for me - one to handle the bassier stuff, one for the high mids. Huge sound with lots of depth if you use differently voiced amps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members theweight Posted January 10, 2007 Members Share Posted January 10, 2007 Alan Eply used an AC-30 and an Orange 30 watt head w/ a 2x12 cab in Shiner and it sounded like 4 full stacks. Biggest sound ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Remedy Posted January 10, 2007 Author Members Share Posted January 10, 2007 how bout this -..... 3 AMPS!!! heh, just kidding. Getting keen to try 2 amps though, with all these glowing reviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jb1911 Posted January 10, 2007 Members Share Posted January 10, 2007 With vintage Fender amps, and others probably you can connect your guitar to input #1 on the first amp, then run a guitar cable from input #2 on the first amp to input #1 on the second amp. We used this method all the time in the old days. Hendrix did it with Marshalls, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Remedy Posted January 10, 2007 Author Members Share Posted January 10, 2007 Originally posted by jb1911 With vintage Fender amps, and others probably you can connect your guitar to input #1 on the first amp, then run a guitar cable from input #2 on the first amp to input #1 on the second amp. We used this method all the time in the old days. Hendrix did it with Marshalls, too. really? wow. seems strange that an 'input' would work as an output. well there ya go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members english_bob Posted January 10, 2007 Members Share Posted January 10, 2007 +1I don't always bother, but the next band I'm in will definitely feature two amps. My Cornell amp is 6L6 Fender-flavoured, so lots of top and bottom, while my Valve Junior is more midrangey, so between them, it sounds huge.I haven't experimented with separate effects chains, or been able to play loud enough at home to get the VJ to break up on its own, but even at low volumes, it rocks. It's also a lot easier to justify bringing two amps to a gig if they add up to 15 watts between them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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