Members Cold_Fever Posted January 24, 2007 Members Posted January 24, 2007 One of my favorite guitar parts is the flange/phase guitar. Anyone know what was used here to get that sound?
Members SwanSong68 Posted January 24, 2007 Members Posted January 24, 2007 Wow, I was just listening to that song two seconds ago and wondering the same thing.
Members Hemispheres Posted January 24, 2007 Members Posted January 24, 2007 I have always read that it's a flanger.
Members squareking Posted January 24, 2007 Members Posted January 24, 2007 Sounds too thick and chewy to be a standard flanger, IMO. On their recent (25th anniv.) tour, Howe had some type of phaser on his board.
Members Non-Digital Tom Posted January 24, 2007 Members Posted January 24, 2007 The Yes Album (which contains "Starship Trooper") was released in '71, a few years before the first commercial BBD-type flangers were available. Phase shifters had just hit the market. In fact, the only commercially produced phaser at that time was the Maestro PS-1 (designed by Tom Oberheim). I always thought this track sounded dead-on like the PS-1, but there are many whose opinion I respect who insist the effect is studio flanging...
Members gr8fuldodd Posted January 24, 2007 Members Posted January 24, 2007 been awhile since I gave it a listen maybe a univibe?
Members loofery Posted January 24, 2007 Members Posted January 24, 2007 it was studio-made. it's not a phaser or flanger they up and bought in a store.
Members english_bob Posted January 24, 2007 Members Posted January 24, 2007 Awesome song. Awesome album. Awesome band. My favourite part is the duelling guitars panned left and right that come in over the flangey rhythm part If it's studio flanging, and you want it in pedal form, you might need to look at something pretty upmarket like the Foxrox TZF to get that through-zero thing going...
Members duderanimous Posted January 24, 2007 Members Posted January 24, 2007 Oh man I love this song, and that tone The Yes Album, Fragile, and Close to the Edge.... some of my favorite listening while pedal making
Members Lanefair Posted January 24, 2007 Members Posted January 24, 2007 Specific arguments aside, it is so obviously flanger. What's that yes track where they do it across the entire track, and you almost get full cancellation as a result. Survival?
Members CapnMarvel Posted January 24, 2007 Members Posted January 24, 2007 I always assumed it was tape flanging...shows you what I know. There's a similar sound used all over Axis:Bold as Love ('Loneliness is sucha....drag') and Electric Ladyland, and I know that was all tape flanging. But yeah. Phasing? Univibe? Not even close. It's just that pedal flangers can't replicate that sound at all. Oh how I wish they could...three chords, Chris Squire's tremelo'd bass. Yum, yum, yum.
Members opultaM Posted January 24, 2007 Members Posted January 24, 2007 I would say... THE BEST FLANGE I'VE EVER HEARD.
Members Lanefair Posted January 24, 2007 Members Posted January 24, 2007 I would say... THE BEST FLANGE I'VE EVER HEARD. +1 Very organic sounding. Mind you a lot of it has to do with the arrangement of the song too. It wouldn't work on most stuff.
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