Members Dr.Picklebottom Posted January 25, 2007 Members Share Posted January 25, 2007 ok, you win. what ever that guys name is is now my favorite guitarist. you go to a thread about not liking the police and youve convinced us all that the police sound {censored}ty but theyre deceptively good. now i have a new favorite band! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TIKILOCKEDOUT Posted January 25, 2007 Members Share Posted January 25, 2007 Well, 1, I never played with people who aped Hendrix. and 2. If I did, I wouldn't think "That guy's stepping all over the vocals and ruining the groove by overplaying." It was an analogy ... and this is semantics at this stage. Copeland WAS the groove along with Sting. If you didn't dig that groove that's one thing but denying the guys talent is pretty absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TIKILOCKEDOUT Posted January 25, 2007 Members Share Posted January 25, 2007 Yup I'm done ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gil1 Posted January 25, 2007 Members Share Posted January 25, 2007 It was an analogy ... and this is semantics at this stage. Copeland WAS the groove along with Sting. If you didn't dig that groove that's one thing but denying the guys talent is pretty absurd. Sting's groove I liked better. His bass playing was tasteful. On the occasions when he and Copeland were laying down a good rock groove, I liked them better. When Copeland was restraining his hyper hihat act, I liked them better. But there are plenty of times, for me, where he plays like an egomaniac, with no concern for the song, and a burning urge to draw attention to himself. I feel that way about Peart, too. Talent (or should I say Chops), sure. Just dial it back about 35%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TIKILOCKEDOUT Posted January 25, 2007 Members Share Posted January 25, 2007 Sting's groove I liked better. His bass playing was tasteful. On the occasions when he and Copeland were laying down a good rock groove, I liked them better. When Copeland was restraining his hyper hihat act, I liked them better. But there are plenty of times, for me, where he plays like an egomaniac, with no concern for the song, and a burning urge to draw attention to himself. I feel that way about Peart, too. Talent (or should I say Chops), sure. Just dial it back about 35%. That's fair comment and I understand your views here ... I just think he was playing that way because he was exceptional and personally I found his playing VERY tasteful ... it's a matter of taste for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wilbo26 Posted January 25, 2007 Members Share Posted January 25, 2007 I can just comment that the main riff in Message in a Bottle is deceptively hard to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PurpleStrat Posted January 25, 2007 Members Share Posted January 25, 2007 Can't stand Stings voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fearofnightmare Posted January 25, 2007 Members Share Posted January 25, 2007 {censored} tha Police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members skr3ddy Posted January 25, 2007 Members Share Posted January 25, 2007 When they were big, I only liked a couple of songs from their first album, 'cause they had a certain punk edge. I thought all the later stuff was ghey and boring. But after years of playing guitar, I can certainly appreciate Summers' playing. Some Police songs I actually like enough to buy a 2nd-hand vinyl now. Very respectable work by all involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gil1 Posted January 25, 2007 Members Share Posted January 25, 2007 That's fair comment and I understand your views here ... I just think he was playing that way because he was exceptional and personally I found his playing VERY tasteful ... it's a matter of taste for sure. I am, BTW, SLIGHTLY overstating my feelings on the Police. If they come on the radio, I often turn them up. And I like it a fair amount for a while. And then the noodling starts, and I'm like "nooooo, go back the other way, it was better before!!" And then they settle down, and I like it again. So it's really more of a love/hate thing. And there are some "busy" grooves I like, Peter Gabriel and Paul Simon (later) have some nice ones in the world music area. Complex, smooth, percolating rhythms. I wish Copeland turned his talent to those ideas, instead, cause he would have been great at it. But for me there are just too many times where it sounds like he's going "Hey, I can do Buddy Rich, too." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gorebuc Posted January 25, 2007 Members Share Posted January 25, 2007 I can just comment that the main riff in Message in a Bottle is deceptively hard to play. streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dr.Picklebottom Posted January 25, 2007 Members Share Posted January 25, 2007 as little as id like to admit it, i agree with gil1. its decent {censored}, just too busy in parts. oh, and i dont care for english accents- just seems like showing off to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fatbackribs Posted January 25, 2007 Members Share Posted January 25, 2007 don't mess with big bad Bert. I don't care much for Sting, but dig that "busy drummer". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Uma Floresta Posted January 25, 2007 Members Share Posted January 25, 2007 the day i spend 1 minute researching the police is the day i stab myself in the face with a spoon. i was generalizing. to praise someone for using alot of effects in the 80s is like praising a restaurant for serving food. they all do, and almost all guitarists in the 80s used alot of effects. If you can't be bothered to look it up, why try discussing it in the first place? I wouldn't try discussing Danzig knowing nothing about them.It wasn't just that he used effects. It's what he did with them. He was more like an aural painter than a guitarist, sometimes. Very unique guitar parts and very interesting sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Acid Test Posted January 25, 2007 Members Share Posted January 25, 2007 Never cared for them - not my style but.... I do appreciate the talent - you can't miss it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Uma Floresta Posted January 25, 2007 Members Share Posted January 25, 2007 as little as id like to admit it, i agree with gil1. its decent {censored}, just too busy in parts. oh, and i dont care for english accents- just seems like showing off to me. Should Sting sing with a German accent? He's English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members angus_old Posted January 25, 2007 Members Share Posted January 25, 2007 I still LOVE the Police for everything they brought to the radio back when much of the radio was {censored}! that's what i'm sayin... they were preferable to most of their contemporaries, but so was enuff'z'nuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members p90teleman Posted January 25, 2007 Members Share Posted January 25, 2007 You're not the only one and it' perfectly normal!!!!!! HCFX tends to have some kind of cool indie vibe but everyone manages to be in love with {censored}ing Edge.And he's playing in U2!!!!!! hahahahahahahahahahahhhahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TIKILOCKEDOUT Posted January 25, 2007 Members Share Posted January 25, 2007 that's what i'm sayin... they were preferable to most of their contemporaries, but so was enuff'z'nuff Yeah, that's NOT what I am saying though ... they to me were awesome! Killer power pop punk and reggae ... nothing like it at the time and nothing quite like it since then. I still play my Police albums to this day ... the song writing, the musicianship and the vibe are all killer. My statements about the radio have nothing to do with nullifying any of this to me ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Heineken Posted January 25, 2007 Members Share Posted January 25, 2007 Dude Police deserves the same respect for the '80's as the Beatles or Stones did for the '60's and Floyd,Hendrix or Zep for the '70's.... They will probably still be popular in the year 5429.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TeamoDave Posted January 25, 2007 Members Share Posted January 25, 2007 I give you Rodney King. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dr.Picklebottom Posted January 25, 2007 Members Share Posted January 25, 2007 Should Sting sing with a German accent? He's English. if you cant be bothered to look up the definition of the word joke, then why discuss it at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Yarmo Posted January 25, 2007 Members Share Posted January 25, 2007 I don't care much for the Police. Maybe someday I will but not as of yet. I can't relate to them even though I respect what they have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CapnMarvel Posted January 25, 2007 Members Share Posted January 25, 2007 Pray tell, on what track exactly does Stewart Copeland overplay? I'm with TIKI. I can understand not being in love with the Police or finding them sorta dated, but to claim they're talentless or were not superior to 90% of their early 80's pop contemporaries is sorta bizarre to me. Plus the fact that I know most of the people who don't like the Police are the same ones who talk all day about how much they love the Red Hot Chili Peppers and Smashing Pumpkins. Bleah. I know what side of that line I'm on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dr.Picklebottom Posted January 25, 2007 Members Share Posted January 25, 2007 Pray tell, on what track exactly does Stewart Copeland overplay? I'm with TIKI. I can understand not being in love with the Police or finding them sorta dated, but to claim they're talentless or were not superior to 90% of their early 80's pop contemporaries is sorta bizarre to me. Plus the fact that I know most of the people who don't like the Police are the same ones who talk all day about how much they love the Red Hot Chili Peppers and Smashing Pumpkins. Bleah. I know what side of that line I'm on. if theres a line separating the police and the red hot chillipepper/ smashing pumpkins camps id want to be standing directly on top of the line, covering my ears and humming loudly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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