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i'm about to score a vox ac30..


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i wouldnt pay more than 700 shipped for one... thats a chinese built amp dude, you are basically paying for the nameplate.



aren't they like 999 new? i would hold out for a GREAT deal. don't be impatient.

 

 

yea.. the most i was gonig to bid was 710

 

it would be nice to get one that low..

 

it was just an idea to get it as well.. it would have been nice, and also spoiling.. but i'd like to have a collection of nice guitar things.. thats my plan..

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thats a chinese built amp dude, you are basically paying for the nameplate.

 

 

This really makes no sense. You're paying for the nameplate, and the circuit design, and the features, and etc etc. Brand equity factors in too, as it does for almost all consumer goods, but I'm pretty confident that if Vox could charge less and still make the entire operation worthwhile (and that includes not degrading their brand equity), they would.

 

Made in China means "cheaper than it would be otherwise," not "cheap." How 'bout them Eastman guitars, f'rinstance?

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i wouldnt pay more than 700 shipped for one... thats a chinese built amp dude, you are basically paying for the nameplate.

 

 

Gotta agree with utterhack, Pretty stupid statement.

 

I dont care if the was made in Iraq, it sounds sweet. Upgrade the tubes and you have yourself one of the best 2x12 combo's being mass produced today.

 

And they are $1000 new, so $700 shipped is a hell of a deal. $600 plus tax at a GC also a hell of a deal.

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Gotta agree with utterhack, Pretty stupid statement.


I dont care if the was made in Iraq, it sounds sweet. Upgrade the tubes and you have yourself one of the best 2x12 combo's being mass produced today.


 

 

+1.

I love my AC-30CCH. Almost every single time our band plays the sound guy tells me that the Vox sounds great.

 

What type of tubes are you talking about when you want to upgrade it?....

Sounds interesting....

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Gotta agree with utterhack, Pretty stupid statement.

 

 

my only point is the reliability issues outweigh the new price tag... commonly you see people with AC30s not feeling safe to gig with them due to their crapping out all the time.

 

chinese built or not, they still are unreliable. they overheat, have lousy internal components, and low grade speakers (unless you get the blues ad almost double the price tag) i didn't intend to say that a chinese built amp is bad, hell, the valve jr head i had a for a bit was VERY well built.

 

i do think when you buy a VOX, to a certain extent, you are paying for the look. i can guarantee that vox could find ways to make their amps cheaper, but they don't need to because people will pay for them. fender, i feel, suffer from the same woes... {censored}ty plastic jacks, low grade components, cheap speakers, but people still will buy them because of the badge on the front. these are companies with legendary histories that they ride on with sub-par new goods.

 

 

now then, after this rant, all things said, if i found a good deal on an ac15, i would probably pull the trigger... they sound great (especially after a retube) but would NEVER gig with one just out of fear of a failing transformer, {censored}ed up jack, etc.

 

i'm not trying to {censored} in anyones punchbowl, i am only saying that for 1000 bucks, you can get a better built amp. end of story.

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these are companies with legendary histories that they ride on with sub-par new goods...


i'm not trying to {censored} in anyones punchbowl, i am only saying that for 1000 bucks, you can get a better built amp. end of story.


The "sub-par new goods" thing still comes down to internet/sinophobe rumorpanic over first-run issues that have been identified and resolved; TOTALLY AGREED than you can get a better-built amp (with fewer features) for $1000 USED (the valvetech murch33 had on the spam thread comes to mind, as well as the occasional Maz Jr and a few heads), or that you can get a similarly-built 2x12 combo with some similar features and a lower-equity name for less (epi blues custom 30).

btw, I wouldn't say there was anything "stupid" about the statement; it's just that brand equity is built into almost everything we buy, so I don't really hold it against anyone. Toyotas would cost less if you put a Ford badge on 'em :)

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bro, i totally think we can agree, a vox is definitely on it own tone-wise, and that kinda chime is worth the dough for sure. and, as i have stated in other vox threads, chances are i'll end up being one of the jump-in-and-hope-for-the-best guys with a vox someday...

only time will tell if the chinese vox's can fix all the varying issues that have plagued these awesome amps since their birth... i hear the overheating has been dealt with, we'll see what they can do about the rest.

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I just checked out your band on MySpace. Pretty cool. What amp are you using now that you want to replace so bad? Considered a Vox too before I went with a Bassman LTD. I also was scared off a little by the purported reliability issues on the Vox. Also the Vox weighed about 75-80lbs.

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bro, i totally think we can agree


It's all good - like I said, I agree that you pay for the name. I just think that's true for almost everything. AFAIK the 95% of the issues were down to bad preamp tubes, and the short-leads PITA was driven by gung-ho folks at the plant noticing that the insides of the amps looked much better if they made the wires shorter.

Doesn't demonstrate a full understanding of end-user needs or the care and feeding of tube amps, but does demonstrate that these are folks who take pride in their work.

When you go for it I can't promise you won't get a dud - they're out there in any mass-produced tube amp - but chances are it'll work out :thu:

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