Members hangwire Posted February 15, 2007 Members Share Posted February 15, 2007 http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/6473866?MSNHPHMA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vigor&kandor Posted February 15, 2007 Members Share Posted February 15, 2007 adding to the off topic discussion i see, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wilbo26 Posted February 15, 2007 Members Share Posted February 15, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Knob_Gobblin' Posted February 15, 2007 Members Share Posted February 15, 2007 Oh my...I should look this guy up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Waaahmbulance Posted February 15, 2007 Members Share Posted February 15, 2007 adding to the off topic discussion i see, thanks Watch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hangwire Posted February 15, 2007 Author Members Share Posted February 15, 2007 adding to the off topic discussion i see, thanks It's one of the perks you get when you been here for a while and helped answer questions... thanks for viewing an OT thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brian Marshall Posted February 15, 2007 Members Share Posted February 15, 2007 I wouldnt want to be on a team with tim hardaway... Teams always seemed to bring him in to "improve" and end up with a ball hogging crybaby, and in spite of how many points he could score, he somehow made the team worse. Try playing defense, and stop playing for your own stats, and try to win.... OH wait, your old, and washed up and don't play any more. I guess you just wanted some attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hangwire Posted February 15, 2007 Author Members Share Posted February 15, 2007 I guess you just wanted some attention. which is the gay player thing as well... for his book deal... but still, that type of blanket hate is just weird for someone to say these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jasonfuzz Posted February 15, 2007 Members Share Posted February 15, 2007 I love how he is so damn matter of fact in his hate for homosexuals and later he apologizes for it. If he went on a hate filled rant I can see apologizing for getting angry but he was so matter of fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CapnMarvel Posted February 15, 2007 Members Share Posted February 15, 2007 Hardaway doesn't even play anymore, he was doing tours and crap for the NBA before he spewed poopie out of his mouth, and now he's unemployed. The worst thing about a person in a position like his saying he hates gay people is not that those words are going to hurt someone's feelings, it's that some chowderbrains will hear those words and use them as justification/encouragement for violence against gay people. I mean, if rich public figures say gay people shouldn't exist in the world, what's to say some moron isn't going to hear that, get pissed off and drunk and pound on a few skulls down in Greenwich Village next Saturday night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members english_bob Posted February 15, 2007 Members Share Posted February 15, 2007 I love how he is so damn matter of fact in his hate for homosexuals and later he apologizes for it. If he went on a hate filled rant I can see apologizing for getting angry but he was so matter of fact. Celebrity public apologies He seems to be apologising for not keeping his homophobic views to himself, as though it was OK to hate gay people as long as you didn't say so in public Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zlandicar Posted February 15, 2007 Members Share Posted February 15, 2007 This brings Keith Richards' racist tirade to mind. Bah, what happened to the days when people weren't afraid to stand up for what they believed? I loathe both racism and homophobia, but going back on it just because some people complained just illustrates a total lack of integrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hangwire Posted February 15, 2007 Author Members Share Posted February 15, 2007 but going back on it just because some people complained just illustrates a total lack of integrity. agreed. the art of self and tact are dissolved now-a-days. if someone realy hates gay people, there is a way to express it and your belief. If it is that the bible says it's wrong [which is totally bull{censored} by the way], then say it and move on and that is your belief. Don't talk about hate and gays being in a locker room with you and need to be traded... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gil1 Posted February 15, 2007 Members Share Posted February 15, 2007 The worst thing about a person in a position like his saying he hates gay people is not that those words are going to hurt someone's feelings, it's that some chowderbrains will hear those words and use them as justification/encouragement for violence against gay people. I mean, if rich public figures say gay people shouldn't exist in the world, what's to say some moron isn't going to hear that, get pissed off and drunk and pound on a few skulls down in Greenwich Village next Saturday night? Really well said. +100000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gil1 Posted February 15, 2007 Members Share Posted February 15, 2007 He seems to be apologising for not keeping his homophobic views to himself, as though it was OK to hate gay people as long as you didn't say so in public IMHO, not hating gay people would be the best. But second best would be that he didn't say so in public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hbar Posted February 15, 2007 Members Share Posted February 15, 2007 as though it was OK to hate gay people as long as you didn't say so in public Wait, you're telling me how I can think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thriftyshirt Posted February 15, 2007 Members Share Posted February 15, 2007 I'm tired of people and celebrities retracting and apologizing for things they truly feel. Like Hardaway with the gays or Richards with blacks. They both apologized for their statements, not because they didn't believe they were right, but because their veiwpoints were unpopular. I'm tired of people cowtowing to public opinion when it comes to their personal opinions. Just because society says that homophobia and racism are WRONG, doesn't mean a homophobe and racist are going to think any differently. So stop pretending you're sorry, just say "Yeah, I said it, and I meant it. It may not be popular, and it may not be right, but that's the way I feel." If you look at the flip side of the same premise: 60 years ago, segregation was the popular viewpoint, and if you favored equality and integration you were "wrong". It took people standing up and saying "I feel differently than public opinion, and I may be wrong or unpopular, but that's the way I feel" to make anything change. I'm tired of polite and subtle racism and homophobia. (I'll probably get flamed by people who miss my point.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CapnMarvel Posted February 15, 2007 Members Share Posted February 15, 2007 MICHAEL Richards, not KEITH Richards, thank you very much. Keith lives in Jamaica and spends a great deal of his time hanging with the locals and jamming. I think if he said anything racist about black people he'd probably be run off the island. Besides the fact he says at every opportunity that his music is entirely derived from black music, and that without black culture he'd have been nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zlandicar Posted February 15, 2007 Members Share Posted February 15, 2007 MICHAEL Richards, not KEITH Richards, thank you very much. I never watched Seinfeld. But that's still weird 'cause the news article where I saw this said Keith. I should have known better than to trust the news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members english_bob Posted February 15, 2007 Members Share Posted February 15, 2007 Wait, you're telling me how I can think? He, or you, or anybody can think that way if you want to, but coming out with some bull{censored} apology saying it was "a mistake"? He didn't accidentally give an interview. he didn't accidentally say he hated gays and that they shouldn't exist, he did it on purpose, then realised that the prevailing view in the media is that he shouldn't think that way, so he apologised. So no, I guess I'm not saying he/you can't think that way (I'd prefer it if nobody did, bigotry is stupid), I'm more concerned with the bull{censored} apology for nothing in particular. Either you're a homophobe or you ain't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hangwire Posted February 15, 2007 Author Members Share Posted February 15, 2007 Either you're a homophobe or you ain't. Maybe people CAN be "just a little" homophobic... like if they are grumpy before they get their morning latte. The queers are really annoying that early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members letterswewrote Posted February 15, 2007 Members Share Posted February 15, 2007 MICHAEL Richards, not KEITH Richards, thank you very much. Keith lives in Jamaica and spends a great deal of his time hanging with the locals and jamming. I think if he said anything racist about black people he'd probably be run off the island. Besides the fact he says at every opportunity that his music is entirely derived from black music, and that without black culture he'd have been nothing. ya i've never heard anything about keith richards... it would seem a little absurd. the stones whole early career was sort of picking and choosing just which black artists to cover and borrow from- he'd have to be in serious denial to make any sort of racist comment. as for this hardaway dumbass, he's obviously having penis dreams and probably has spent most of his life repressing homosexual urges, so he's getting all pissy in public about it. how anybody who isn't gay and in denial could have such strong feelings toward someone else's sexuality is beyond me. and the "i dont feel safe" with him in the locker-room? what a loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hbar Posted February 15, 2007 Members Share Posted February 15, 2007 He, or you, or anybody can think that way if you want to, but coming out with some bull{censored} apology saying it was "a mistake"? He didn't accidentally give an interview. he didn't accidentally say he hated gays and that they shouldn't exist, he did it on purpose, then realised that the prevailing view in the media is that he shouldn't think that way, so he apologised.So no, I guess I'm not saying he/you can't think that way (I'd prefer it if nobody did, bigotry is stupid), I'm more concerned with the bull{censored} apology for nothing in particular. Either you're a homophobe or you ain't.Oh, you'd prefer if everyone shared your point of view? How open minded of you. ;-) Your point regarding the forced apology was dead on, but you sure made it sound like you were telling us what thoughts are right/wrong. It's all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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