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and i think that having people around to do their dirty work willingly does not help.

 

 

But that isn't all they do. Sure America has {censored}ed up wars and funded dictatorships but American soldiers also risk their lives to liberate oppressed people, WWI and WWII back in the day, even more recently in Afghanistan and such. (yes we {censored}ed up there too)

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Jeeze, just cause its videod don't make it notable; millions of animals are killed daily in the service of humans, hell thousands of humans are killed daily by humans and in way worse ways... As a scientist I knew a woman whose job was to gas Beagle puppies all day long, another who would kill hundreds of mice daily and cut off their heads is with scissors, another who would pump increasing amounts of radioactive drugs into restrained chimps until they stroked out and died, still another who dripped drano into restrained rabbits eyes until their eyeballs melted...and this is the "legit" scientific cruelty; amateur cruelty is likely worse (although lower volume)


The calves of all commercial milk cows are taken away and suckled on slaugterhouse blood so their moms milk can go in my coffee...


As humans, the one thing we ALL have in common is ancestors who put themselves first and killed anything and everything they could...


"life and death... the same. " Conan the Barbarian



sorry but we are just higher on the chain. {censored} happens.:idk:

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Guys, Marines are people too.
:)
That means there are some outstanding Marines out there, and some occasional idiots. While I do not know if that YouTube video is real or fake, or if the puppy was alive or dead, I do know that
this Marine / dog story
is authentic, and should be a more positive reflection on the Corps.


Semper Fi.



hoo ra!

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Hey CHISA!




Like your avatar, I slammed with Jerry A at a DK concert at the Pinestreet in PDX, in the day, big guy with some impressive scars. It was fun until some loser hurled in the mosh pit...

 

 

jerry a is da man. pig champion still around, last i heard he was needing a chair to play.

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ah, the latecomers!

where was the USA when poland was invaded, whe france was invaded, when the nazis annexed the sudatenland, when the persecution of the jews began, when the blitz burned london.....


sitting at home being "non-interventionist"

:lol:;)

loving the monroe doctrine.
:)



What was America doing? On 7 December 1941, Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, bringing America into the second world war. On 11 December 1941, Germany declares war on America.

Before this time, America had no place being in Europe. None at all. We got burned badly in World War I. Much of the public was, yes, "non-interventionist" and for good reason. Why would they want to go to war in Europe? Hindsight being 20/20, we now know that Hitler was a threat to the human race, and part of the intelligentsia in America knew that, but that was a small percentage of the population. For what it looked like, Hitler was just gonna be a run of the mill dictator. Who cared? Bunch of Europeans killin' each other--so what? If Roosevelt wanted to go to war, Congress wouldn't have approved it. Period. We weren't ready to go to war until 1942, and that is a fact. We had a skeleton army.

So. Pearl Harbor comes around. America's in the war. What does that mean? We had a peacetime draft in 1940, but in no way were we prepared to fight Japan. We had to let them set up forts in SE Asia because we just couldn't fight them for a good 6 months or so. Roosevelt and Marshall at this time also KNOW that Hitler is a threat and something that needs to be dealt with as soon as possible. We can thank our lucky stars that Hitler declared war on America because without that, it would've been a dreadful, nearly impossible task to try and convince the American public to go to war. In context, they were sure justified in not wanting to go to war. They were in a depression!

Talks ensue with Churchill and Molotov, and we're gonna open up a second front by year's end (1942).... woefully unprepared. A ridiculous lack of shipping, soldiers, and agreement between the Western Allies. Operation Torch takes place in December 1942, and it is a bloodbath. Instead of landing in the right places in Africa, we couldn't land at a critical port to staunch Nazi soldiers from coming in because of a desperate lack of shipping. America in England fights in Africa for 6 months. We soon begin ascending the "Bloody Boot" of Italy, fighting merely two German divisions (~30,000 men) while the Russians fight the whole German army (millions) deep into Russian territory. Takes us FOREVER to get nowhere in Italy, the only real progress made is through shipping supplies to Russia, and of course D-Day (Operation Overlord) on 6 June 1944. Again, desperate lack of shipping, it's a blood bath, Allies race to try and get into Germany. ~16 months later, Berlin's razed.

So what were we doing? Rushing our asses off to try and defeat Germany.

"when the persecution of the jews began"
Jews were being persecuted for years before this, and America was just as anti-semitic as any other country. Roosevelt knew that the holocaust was going on, but no American citizen would shed a drop of blood for a jew. Sorry, but that's how it was. We even turned holocaust refugees away from entering the country. Context, man, context. It was wrong to do so, but context man.

Poland.

Poland was a country run by a renegade, crazy government that attacked in all directions when they got their independence after WWI. They refused a German protection agreement and was so belligerent that they essentially asked for it.

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All that said and done, I don't think it's right to say our soldiers are "freedom fighters." Ever since WWII, there really hasn't been a direct affront on American democracy or freedom. The Cold War was just a collection of little proxy wars which we had no business in (and {censored}ed most of them up) and flexing our nuclear capabilities.

 

"War is an extension of diplomacy."

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thats terrible!

and pbone, just curious, but what are your political leanings? I can't really tell.

 

 

I tell people bipartisan, but I'm more center-left. I try to avoid as many of the non-issues as possible (abortion, gay marriage, etc). You?

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I tell people bipartisan, but I'm more center-left. I try to avoid as many of the non-issues as possible (abortion, gay marriage, etc). You?


pretty extreme left.
like, we took a political test in our socials class, where we were given twenty questions relating to health care, the current government :blah:, and we had to answer each one strongly agree, agree, disagree, strongly disagree, and then for every strongly agree that was 5 points, etc etc until strongly disagree was zero points. i got 96 or something.
but im not that extreme left guy that wears che guevara t-shirts just because its che guevara and he was a rebel.
che guevara was kind of a bitch.

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pretty extreme left.

like, we took a political test in our socials class, where we were given twenty questions relating to health care, the current government
:blah:
, and we had to answer each one strongly agree, agree, disagree, strongly disagree, and then for every strongly agree that was 5 points, etc etc until strongly disagree was zero points. i got 96 or something.

but im not that extreme left guy that wears che guevara t-shirts just because its che guevara and he was a rebel.

che guevara was kind of a bitch.



Socialist? Communist?

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"Bring it down" - (Michael Moore doll voice In Team America World Police)

 

People can be assholes.

 

Marines are people.

 

Not all Marines are assholes.

 

Many people are stupid.

 

Some Marines that are people are stupid.

 

Some stupid people became Marines.

 

That guy is one of those stupid people.

 

I'm not too surprised by the behavior. Definitely not all Marines are like but given the circumstances - People doing multiple tours of Iraq, dealing with serious {censored}, some are bound to get loose in the head.

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i mean i dont understand, it is indeed wrong but you guys act like youve just seen a group of people being massarced.


seriously, ive seen less humane things done right in front of me and im only 18.

 

 

LIKE YO MAMA

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If it is real it's {censored}ed up, Marine or not. The fact that it is a Marine (if the video is authentic) is no good on a PR perspective.

 

Of course it is small potatoes with respect to the other {censored} that goes on, though more shadey {censored} is done by private contractors than Marines.

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Oh, and chisa, it was the Luftwaffe that burned london, not the "blitz." The Germans never invaded England. And that happened in 1940, before Pearl Harbor.

 

Sorry we couldn't help you out, buddy!

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some, but not all, of us tend to respect those who would willingly lay down their lives for us and others


we're weird like that

 

 

lol yes well said.

 

 

I agree that this is being blown out of proportion. What about all the deaths of civilians and unjust deaths that people aren't hearing about, or ones we did but turned a blind eye of just said "yeah that happens". Maybe people have become so dumb down by hearing "30 people were killed by a road side bomb just outside of Baghdad today" or "4 civilians were killed by private contractors at a check point" that their ears perk up when the hear/see something different - like a soldier throwing a dog off a cliff.

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Oh, and chisa, it was the Luftwaffe that burned london, not the "blitz." The Germans never invaded England. And that happened in 1940, before Pearl Harbor.


Sorry we couldn't help you out, buddy!

 

 

it is referred to as the "blitz" in england. the attacks on london during the early part of WWII.

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