Members vifitflag909 Posted March 11, 2008 Members Share Posted March 11, 2008 First of all, I'm not posting this in the amp forum because the effects forum is generally more geared at my style of music. I just want an amp that's on the smaller side and about 15-20 watts. I will be using this as a clean amp only, so I want it to have great, chimey cleans and the ability to take pedals well. I generally like el84 amps a lot. Preferably, a low-noise amp with some sort of reverb (even if it's mediocre). I know there are some threads out there but I still can't decide. I loved the sound of the Fender blues junior I tried but I've heard they have some hum problems and I plan on recording with the amp, so that'd be a problem. Vox AC15cc? Traynor Ycv20wr? $700 or under, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IvIark Posted March 11, 2008 Members Share Posted March 11, 2008 You could get the Laney VC15 or even the VC30 with that budget so they may be worth checking out. Their cleans are very well thought of and very similar to the Vox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members frankiej Posted March 11, 2008 Members Share Posted March 11, 2008 the ac15 is pretty good but that {censored} can get loud, i mean real loud for a 15w. its pretty quite, i mean yes there will be some humming but you wont notice it unless you arent playing and the volume is pretty high. It gets some grit at about 5, somewhere around there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HeartfeltDawn Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 Ac15 will have a Master volume, something the VC15 and VC30 lack. That Master Volume is the key to having something that's nicely cranked up but won't kill the neighbours. Loudness isn't just related to the output. The AC15TBX I owned was rated at 15 watts with a 15 watt speaker. It was actually quieter than my 10 watt Cornell Romany Plus amp with a 70 watt Jensen speaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members placebo62 Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 I'd get one of these.http://www.reevesamps.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=32&Itemid=53The Templar Dragon is a two-channel amp with all the tone and necessities you will need at a modest price. The versatility of the Dragon is shown in its capabilities to play country, jazz, blues and rock with equal authority.The normal clean channel has a wonderful open warm tone with a natural chime that can be used in all styles of music.The lead channel offers up some tasty overdriven tones that will excel in both blues and rock settings.What really makes this amp so versatile is the Master Volume. All you need to do is dial in the amount of drive in either channel then manage the output with the master volume. What youll find is super clean cleans and sizzling overdrive. Boutique-style features at mass market prices is the use of Paper in Oil capacitor in the first gain stage. JJ power tubes and NOS 12AT7 in the phase inverter.FEATURES 30 wattsFour JJ EL84s, two 12AX7s and one NOS 12AT72-channel preampVolume and gain controls on lead channelNormal volume control on clean channel Presence control3-band passive EQ (bass, middle, treble) Master volume controlReverb level controlSpring reverbStandby switchEffects loopExternal speaker 4,8,16 ohmFootswitch selectable channel switching and reverb (footswitch optional)1 year parts and labor warranty. See FAQ's for details.PRICE$599 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members iodine74 Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 If you didn't have the EL84 affinity, I'd recommend a Silverface Princeton. I love the cleans on mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members elxchino Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 Yeah the AC15 will do you well. The Alnico Blue should get you a nice chime. But if you want a bit more headroom, you can replace it with a Greenback 25 or something (not really sure if those chime as well though..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jake.lind Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 You want a vox AC15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zachary vex Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 The new Vox AC15HTVH with separate head and cab totally rules. My new favorite amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PeelingPaint98 Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 I really dig the Laney VC15s alot, I don't think the lack of a master volume is a big deal I can crank the volume half way without causing trouble so depending on your situation you might go louder problem free, also it takes pedals quite well and the reverb isn't too bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vifitflag909 Posted March 12, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 there are two things holding me back: the possible hum from the Blues jr. and the unreliability of the Vox - otherwise the features are exactly what I want. I just NEED something reliable. can anyone comment on if these problems are, in fact, true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members frankiej Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 ok...to settle this. The vox isnt unreliable, maybe with the early re-issues but the bugs are worked out now. The ones that were bad got blown way out of proporation. It held me back at first then i relized some people just talk out their ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IvIark Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 The master volume thing is totally irrelevant for someone who wants an amp for cleans only. Why would he need to crank it? Seriously try a VC range amp, they're extremely good even when compared to equivalent amps that cost a lot more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sunsetcarcrash Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 Fender DRRI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members eugene3ph Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 blackheart little giant or a peavey classic 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KnewMono Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 The master volume thing is totally irrelevant for someone who wants an amp for cleans only. Why would he need to crank it?Seriously try a VC range amp, they're extremely good even when compared to equivalent amps that cost a lot more money. +1 totally. the cleans start breaking at around 8ish and no the master volume is not need on this amp as it has a drive volume on the gain (which is pretty much a MV). Reverb is pretty decent too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members smrz Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 You can solve the hum problem with a bit of heat shrink tubing. Make a thread, and someone who knows how to do it will tell you. I'd be all over a Pro Junior if I were you. Sounds way better than the Blues Jr, mostly because it doesn't have the bad eq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Clorox Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 Are the reliability concerns for the AC15 well-founded? The only thing making me favor the DRRI over it are all the complaints of it being fragile/breaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vifitflag909 Posted March 12, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 so, the question about the vox's reliability is still not answered, because some people say they are and some say they aren't. and, anything more about the hum on the blues junior? does anyone experience this? By the way, I forgot to mention that I really want a 12" speaker, which is why the laney/pro junior aren't big on my list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HeartfeltDawn Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 The master volume thing is totally irrelevant for someone who wants an amp for cleans only. Why would he need to crank it? I was imagining the OP in a more domestic setting. As for why would he need to crank it... dude! It's an amp! Everyone likes cranking it once in a while! Right, so 12" speaker is needed. $700 or under. Do you need reverb? Effects loop? If you want a 12" ceramic speaker with a lot of clean headroom, I'd look at the Jensen Mod 12-70. Excellent speaker, great for that clean Fender-type sound. It's quite warm for a ceramic but in a different way to something like an alnico Celestion Blue. if you don't need reverb or an effect loop, why not look for a head and then have a separate 1x12" cabinet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pbone Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 Try to get a used DRRI maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Karma1 Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 Have you checked out the Fender Super Champ XD? Might be worth looking into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vifitflag909 Posted March 12, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 Right, so 12" speaker is needed. $700 or under. Do you need reverb? Effects loop? If you want a 12" ceramic speaker with a lot of clean headroom, I'd look at the Jensen Mod 12-70. Excellent speaker, great for that clean Fender-type sound. It's quite warm for a ceramic but in a different way to something like an alnico Celestion Blue. I could use some headroom, but obviously there is only so much a 15 watt tube amp will have. Some sort of reverb is definitely preferred, effects loop not mandatory. If I can get a head and cabinet for $700, recommend away, but I have trouble finding any for that little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vifitflag909 Posted March 13, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 13, 2008 bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jazzdrum Posted March 13, 2008 Members Share Posted March 13, 2008 DRRI with an eminance wizard for sensitivity 92 or 93 i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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