Members Crxsh Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 So VangKM has this trem up in the SPAM thread (far left): What I'm trying to figure out is if I can fit that on my strat easily? Anyone knowledgeable enough to help me out? Also, it's a 2 point trem... now I realize that's supposed to help with better tuning stability ... but any other benefits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoboPimp Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 just get a new body to house the new trem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crxsh Posted March 12, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 just get a new body to house the new trem .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members M900 Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 You can use wood filler to stop up the holes in your strat, then drill the posts for the new trem. Not a big job, but the only benefit, as far as I know, is that the saddles on the 2-point trems have grooves that prevents the strings from moving sideways when you use the trem and help hold tune. I personally prefer the 6-screw trem, mostly because I think you get more sustain with the increased contact between the bridge and the trem. Actually, if you decide to make the switch, I'd be open to buying the old bridge from you for a project I have sitting around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members monkeyland Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 there is nothing wrong with the trem on that guitar. if you want to upgrade it then go for callaham parts. otherwise leave it be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SharkMinusBear Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 you wouldn't have had to ask this question if you had waited for a awesome tele to come around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crxsh Posted March 12, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 you wouldn't have had to ask this question if you had waited for a awesome tele to come around. If I had waited for a tele... I would've been asking about how to install a Bigsby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crxsh Posted March 12, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 there is nothing wrong with the trem on that guitar. if you want to upgrade it then go for callaham parts. otherwise leave it be. Tuning is awful. I played for 15 minutes ... had to tune 3 times. Could be the strings. This thing needs new strings and a decent setup. Then again, here's a question ... Melx and someone else suggest I just put more springs in the back and lose the trem arm. Well... I want a guitar w/ a trem ... so putting more springs in means I'll have........... more resistance & more stable tuning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SharkMinusBear Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 The trem might not be the problem, you might need to adjust the springs under the bridge plate, the action, and then the intonation... I don't own a strat but I have a guitar with a strat type trem and I thought that adding more tension means it will pull your strings sharper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoboPimp Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 so putting more springs in means I'll have........... more resistance & more stable tuning? nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crxsh Posted March 12, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 The trem might not be the problem, you might need to adjust the springs under the bridge plate, the action, and then the intonation... Yeah... I'm gonna tear into this thing later tonight. I need to adjust the neck, lower the action .... etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crxsh Posted March 12, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 nope Thanks. What does it do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members monkeyland Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 Tuning is awful. I played for 15 minutes ... had to tune 3 times. Could be the strings. This thing needs new strings and a decent setup.Then again, here's a question ... Melx and someone else suggest I just put more springs in the back and lose the trem arm. Well... I want a guitar w/ a trem ... so putting more springs in means I'll have........... more resistance & more stable tuning? setup is everything. a vintage trem can do a lot. if you have never used one then you just need to spend some time learning how. get the guitar setup, lubed, make sure the nut isn't binding and make sure that the strings are wound on the tuning pegs correctly and it should do just fine. instead of spending all of your money throwing parts at the guitar you can learn a lot about how to make it work wonderfully in stock form by buying and reading this or this from cover to cover a couple of times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IRG Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 Yeah often it's not the tuners, but the nut even. My strat stays in tune very well, even with medium to mild whammy use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CiceroTJones Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 Tru, setup, neck adjustment, intonation, NEW STRINGS, and then play for a week. THEN choose to mod. You just got it a couple hours ago... Take some time bro... no offense. But take some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members M900 Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 Tuning is awful. I played for 15 minutes ... had to tune 3 times. Could be the strings. This thing needs new strings and a decent setup.Then again, here's a question ... Melx and someone else suggest I just put more springs in the back and lose the trem arm. Well... I want a guitar w/ a trem ... so putting more springs in means I'll have........... more resistance & more stable tuning? If you're going to use the trem a lot, the 6-point is probably not the best system for you. That being said, what you have seems really exteme, unless you're doing nasty divebombs or something. You might want to try lubricating the nut -- having the nut bind and hold the strings is one major reason for tuning instability. More springs in the trem will increase resistance, but that's mostly for those who pull the trem when doing bends... If you are starting off with a bad set up on your guitar, it's probably not wise to switch out the bridge immediately. The 2-point is certainly more stable when it comes to tuning the guitar, but counless people have used the vintage-type trem with much success, and I personally do not have that much trouble with my strats with the vintage trems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crxsh Posted March 12, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 If you're going to use the trem a lot, the 6-point is probably not the best system for you. That being said, what you have seems really exteme, unless you're doing nasty divebombs or something.You might want to try lubricating the nut -- having the nut bind and hold the strings is one major reason for tuning instability. More springs in the trem will increase resistance, but that's mostly for those who pull the trem when doing bends... If you are starting off with a bad set up on your guitar, it's probably not wise to switch out the bridge immediately. The 2-point is certainly more stable when it comes to tuning the guitar, but counless people have used the vintage-type trem with much success, and I personally do not have that much trouble with my strats with the vintage trems. Hmm.... well, I've got a new Tusq nut in the mail, along with a new Graph Tech string tree..... so I'll put those in and see what's up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crxsh Posted March 12, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 Tru, setup, neck adjustment, intonation, NEW STRINGS, and then play for a week. THEN choose to mod. You just got it a couple hours ago...Take some time bro... no offense. But take some time. I have a tendency of rushing into stuff.... so no offense taken. I'll set it up tonight and get some new strings on this bad boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stravinsky Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 Your new strat is very sharp A proper setup goes a LONG way. Callaham is definitely the way to go for strat parts, but it wouldn't take long at all sinking $$ into parts that could add up to the price of a nice used american strat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members monkeyland Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 Hmm.... well, I've got a new Tusq nut in the mail, along with a new Graph Tech string tree..... so I'll put those in and see what's up. ive never had a problem with the stock nut on a mexi strat. just sometimes the slots need to be fine tuned a bit especially if you like to use bigger strings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mike.sartori Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 Your new strat is very sharp A proper setup goes a LONG way. Callaham is definitely the way to go for strat parts, but it wouldn't take long at all sinking $$ into parts that could add up to the price of a nice used american strat. All true. Setting up that guitar properly will help a lot. For the best tuning stability with a six-point trem, set it to dive only, not pull up. Callaham stuff is awesome; I bought the whole kit for my strat and it is far and away the best stuff out there. And yes, you could be approaching MIA prices, but I would rather have a MIM with Callaham hardware and nice pickups any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members homestar_kevin Posted March 12, 2008 Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 there's a sample hold for sale over at tgp right now man. i know you wanttt itttt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crxsh Posted March 12, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 12, 2008 there's a sample hold for sale over at tgp right now man. i know you wanttt itttt Yeah.... trying for it now. He's relatively unresponsive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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