Members willow85 Posted March 19, 2008 Members Share Posted March 19, 2008 Hey everyone,Have been browsing the site for years seeking out all your great advice but i cant seem to find any posts on delay pedal recommendations. I am a long time bass player who has recently converted to the world of guitar, and i am currently trying to create a decent guitar setup for myself. I play a Vox AC30 and am most likely going to buy a Strat or Tele. A few guitarist i know play the Line 6 DL4 delay modeller and that seems to have a decent enough sound but it has a real digital tone to it. I was after something a bit more gentle and subtle. Any recommendations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Frankyblues Posted March 19, 2008 Members Share Posted March 19, 2008 I'm very happy with my new Dan Echo, digital but sounds sweet for $100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NetStar Posted March 19, 2008 Members Share Posted March 19, 2008 "What's that I hear in the distance? DE-7?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Clorox Posted March 19, 2008 Members Share Posted March 19, 2008 Ibanez DE7 is a good simple delay pedal. If you have a little more money, the DMM is king. Incredible modulation, great tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thezeng Posted March 19, 2008 Members Share Posted March 19, 2008 freakshow Digilog! DMM! SMMH. seriously there are so many good delays, just try one, pick one etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrNixon Posted March 19, 2008 Members Share Posted March 19, 2008 DE7 straight out. best bang for your dollar. There is a 'FirstAct Analog Delay' that sells @ Toys R us for 40 bucks. if you really want to treat yourself, save up for a Timefactor. nothing short of amazing. if you're looking for a standard, but outstanding echo, check out the RE20 space echo modeler (i think this would complement your setup perfectly). i've owned the following, in order of faves:TimefactorDD20DE7DMMDL4Keeley Mod AD9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kyrreca Posted March 19, 2008 Members Share Posted March 19, 2008 Depends on your budget and what you're gonna use it for. The Eventide Timefactor gets a lot of love around here, supposed to be versatile and good-sounding (I haven't gotten to play one yet. I really like the T-Rex Replica, which is a very analogue, warm sounding delay with 1500 ms delay and tap tempo. It's the same price as the Timefactor, though ($400), so if you want a lot of versatility, the Replica isn't really the best value for money. For delay with modulation, the Electro Harmonix Memory Man Deluxe is a good bet. The new MXR Carbon Copy is a bit cheaper and simpler, but it also has modulation. In the budget range, Boss DD-3 and Ibanez DE7 are good pedals. The DD-3 is bit cold and sterile sounding imho, but you can fix that if you know how to solder. There's a bunch of other pedals to consider too, of course. Give us something more to go by, and it will be easier to recommend something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members willow85 Posted March 19, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 19, 2008 Thanks lads,Im quite comfortable with forking out some money for a quality tone so i appreciate all the variable options you have supplied me with! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members kyrreca Posted March 19, 2008 Members Share Posted March 19, 2008 Someone posted something in another thread about these being the same pedal, can anyone confirm/deny this? I've read the description of the T.C Delay, and it's pretty much identical to the replica. And they're both Danish, same price, same layout, the subdivision and high-cut buttons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted March 19, 2008 Members Share Posted March 19, 2008 Someone posted something in another thread about these being the same pedal, can anyone confirm/deny this? I've read the description of the T.C Delay, and it's pretty much identical to the replica. And they're both Danish, same price, same layout, the subdivision and high-cut buttons... Correct TC was having T rex build them and has now discontinued it's vintage delay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChuckNorris1982 Posted March 19, 2008 Members Share Posted March 19, 2008 I believe they are, yeah. Don't TC own T Rex or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IvIark Posted March 19, 2008 Members Share Posted March 19, 2008 Is it one of the Custom Classic AC30's with a serial effect loop? If so personally I would put either an Echo Park or an Ibanez DE-7 in the loop, but I'd hate to digitize the dry signal and so would probably use a Boss LS-2 or a Nobels SPX31 to convert it into a parallel loop, and then use whichever delay I thought sounded best set to be 100% wet so the main dry signal is left alone. Many people don't care about going to that trouble, but I would, particularly with a great amp. EDIT: If you're happy spending more then the Timefactor in the loop would be great! I'd still parallel it up though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted March 19, 2008 Members Share Posted March 19, 2008 I believe they are, yeah. Don't TC own T Rex or something?No, TC Electronic doesn't own T-Rex, but rather was just bought out by Gibson.Yes, same pedal though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrNixon Posted March 19, 2008 Members Share Posted March 19, 2008 i think the story is that TC does distribution for TRex. That Vintage Delay unit sure was pricey tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members molsen Posted March 19, 2008 Members Share Posted March 19, 2008 dd20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted March 19, 2008 Members Share Posted March 19, 2008 Is it one of the Custom Classic AC30's with a serial effect loop? If so personally I would put either an Echo Park or an Ibanez DE-7 in the loop, but I'd hate to digitize the dry signal and so would probably use a Boss LS-2 or a Nobels SPX31 to convert it into a parallel loop, and then use whichever delay I thought sounded best set to be 100% wet so the main dry signal is left alone. Many people don't care about going to that trouble, but I would, particularly with a great amp. Whatever works for you... I've never been fond of parallel loops personally. I pretty much defined an entirely new level of, "going to that trouble" though and LOVE how much simpler it really ends up being, NOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kyrreca Posted March 19, 2008 Members Share Posted March 19, 2008 Correct TC was having T rex build them and has now discontinued it's vintage delay Thanks for the info. To bring this back on topic: As I said, I highly recommend the Replica (and thus also the T.C Electronics Vintage Delay), if you're simply looking for a great sounding delay and are prepared to spend some cash. Look around for deals too, I just saw one of those T.C Electronics pedals go for $227,50 on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted March 19, 2008 Members Share Posted March 19, 2008 i think the story is that TC does distribution for TRex. That Vintage Delay unit sure was pricey tho. As is usually the case with stuff that sounds as good as that. Personally these are my delay preferences: not pedals, but still... tone, flexibility, and versatility over form, for me. If I were building a pedal board with only pedals it'd be the Nova delay, and Vintage delay for tone and the Time factor for versatility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members IvIark Posted March 19, 2008 Members Share Posted March 19, 2008 Whatever works for you... I've never been fond of parallel loops personally. I pretty much defined an entirely new level of, "going to that trouble" though and LOVE how much simpler it really ends up being, NOW. Well something similar would work for me, but it would have a rack involved rather than a pedal! What don't you like about parallel loops Zach? That surprises me because when you look at the efort you've gone to on your rig, I would have thought avoiding analog/digital conversion might also have been important to you. Eventide converters are great, but I still don't like them working on the dry signal unless I'm playing something more textural when I need control of the wet/dry mix more. Are all the processors in your rack linked serially then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted March 19, 2008 Members Share Posted March 19, 2008 That surprises me because when you look at the efort you've gone to on your rig, I would have thought avoiding analog/digital conversion might also have been important to you. Eventide converters are great, but I still don't like them working on the dry signal unless I'm playing something more textural when I need control of the wet/dry mix more. Are all the processors in your rack linked serially then? On my rig I run W/D/W and always have my unaltered guitar signal happening. I have a pedal tray with analog pedals that are routed before the amp's inputs and the rack effects are routed through a custom CAE switcher and routed in parallel through a CAE Line mixer, to the wet (stereo power amp/cabs only). The only exception is my Eventide... It's routed BOTH series and parallel as it has 4 analog in/outs. I use the series I/O's for effects like sampling, fuzz, univibe stuff (rare) and mostly have it run in parallel. Technically I have a couple of pairs of XLR cables that I can physically switch as necessary to run all parallel, or inputs/outputs 3/4 series, but even the Eventide is routed only through the wet cabs. If I want only stereo as opposed to W/D/W, I use a THD hotplate on the amps set to load, eliminating the middle Dry signal all together and have presets set accordingly to have the proper blend of effects. Here is the routing schematic: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aussy Posted March 19, 2008 Members Share Posted March 19, 2008 MXR carbon copyEarthquaker Devices Disaster Transport Whats your price range? Also, what kind of features are you looking for in a delay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrNixon Posted March 19, 2008 Members Share Posted March 19, 2008 holy crap, racks freak the {censored} outta me. +1 on the Carbon Copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted March 19, 2008 Members Share Posted March 19, 2008 holy crap, racks freak the {censored} outta me. +1 on the Carbon Copy. Everything has a learning curve attached to it, and after a while it is just viewed as gear, when you get familiar with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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