Members RJpilot Posted March 20, 2008 Members Share Posted March 20, 2008 I have v1 OCD, and a V2 Crunchbox, and the deal is that I love the feel of the OCD but its got a hollow scoop that comes out when recorded. It also could use a bit more gain/sustain. Its got great dynamics but its just a bit dark and does not sustain. The Crunchbox on the other hand has got the gain/sustain and sounds great but it really lacks the dynamics of the OCD. I wish I could get both in one. Does anybody know if the newer OCD versions would solve my problem. I have never heard a side by side comparison of the ocd versions. I love how the OCD responds to my pick attack for rhythm and solos but it just doesnt sustain. I also love the way the OCD backs off as you roll the volume back. Do I simply need to boost the damn thing with a TS or a clean boost or somin? I play mostly Hard Rock and Heavy Metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bvester Posted March 20, 2008 Members Share Posted March 20, 2008 Excellent question. *waits* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Instrospection Posted March 20, 2008 Members Share Posted March 20, 2008 I'm not sure about the newer OCD's, but I always wished that for a boutique (semi boutique at least?) pedal, that they could have installed a bass knob, just so that the low end could be boosted for some low end sustain (come on Mike, Digitech got it right with the Bad Monkey for 50 bucks! ). I know what you mean about the pick attack--in a loud band mix, you hear the pick attack, and the rest of the signal drops out. My suggestion is to run it through another dirtier pedal or overdrive that rounds the whole signal off a bit better.....a modified Blues Driver does this excellently, but it also does everything very well--dirt, clean, chimey-ness, etc. I've always been of the frame of mind that truly great pedals don't need to be stacked, though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RJpilot Posted March 20, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 20, 2008 I've always been of the frame of mind that truly great pedals don't need to be stacked, though.... Bingo. I don't want to sacrifice dynamics for a full sustaining tone. I also don't want to overpopulate my board with dirt boxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bvester Posted March 20, 2008 Members Share Posted March 20, 2008 I'm thinking that a common solution to this problem would be the BoR, but there must be at least a handful of others that I can't think of / I'm not aware of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IvIark Posted March 20, 2008 Members Share Posted March 20, 2008 BoR is lower gain than either of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bvester Posted March 20, 2008 Members Share Posted March 20, 2008 BoR is lower gain than either of them I thought it was on the same level, if not a bit more than the OCD? I've never actually played any of them so what do I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kitarist Posted March 20, 2008 Members Share Posted March 20, 2008 thats the same question i've been askin But what would give you more sustain an 808 pedal or OCD isnt OCD more gainy and also the reason it should sustain more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Instrospection Posted March 21, 2008 Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 I have a Korg Classic Overdrive 105OD and it's the best pedal, hands down, that i've ever played through. Honestly. It's very, very little known, and if you can find one, buy it. Buy two. It has gain, tone, contour (for mids) and volume knobs, has line/ amp outputs, has lo/ hi inputs for humbuckers or single coils, has a boost switch if you want higher gain, and has two programmable channels--I use one for a clean dirt boost, and then another for leads. Runs circles around my TS pedals and every other overdrive that I own. It's as dirty or as clean as you need it to be. I don't recall having that diversity in any other pedal that i've seen--and the input/ output level switching is great, and caters to whatever type of pickups that you're playing through. The distortion is really smooth, and pick attack is responsive, but not overpowering. Korg offered them in 1997 as boutique pedals around the 200 dollar range (VERY high for 1997), and for whatever reason, they didn't catch on. Maybe people couldn't figure it out. It figures that it didn't sell very well--they were one of the few companies that spent the $$$ trying to get it right with the options AND two channels instead of having two separate pedals. Either way, they predated the proper OD pedal market by at least this much time, and maybe much more. It's getting pretty hard to find these days. Even EBay is getting less frequent, but you can find these for 50 bucks and snag 'em now before they become a part of a holy grail later on. 50 bucks is what a Bad Monkey would cost you. Do it. Pic from Harmony Central's site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aussy Posted March 21, 2008 Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 The v3 ocd has more mids, increased gain, and probably better dynamics (seeing as its a newer version, I'd assume they'd at least try to improve it)edit: the same can be said about v4 I guess, though I have no experience with thatedit2: heres a site that compares the three versionshttp://www.elisanet.fi/flaser_phanger/ocd.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Drumas funk Posted March 21, 2008 Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 A lot of thread abut the OCD lately, not helping my gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members booher Posted March 21, 2008 Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 Look into the V2 and the V4 OCD's as they're given the most regard as far as the OCD's out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RJpilot Posted March 21, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 The v3 ocd has more mids, increased gain, and probably better dynamics (seeing as its a newer version, I'd assume they'd at least try to improve it)edit: the same can be said about v4 I guess, though I have no experience with thatedit2: heres a site that compares the three versionshttp://www.elisanet.fi/flaser_phanger/ocd.htm cool site.I might have to check out a newer OCD. But I don't think I 'm ready to give up my v1. So far the best results come from boosting it with a fatboost. the Ts-9 and even a fm FD-2 I tried added a lot of compression and thinned the tone. I 'll try and post some clips on soundclick before I go to work tommorow. I wouldn't hold your breath though...as if you were eagerly awaiting... good night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kitarist Posted March 21, 2008 Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 yea seems that OCD really rox but what about the sustain some people say it adds lots of sustain some people say it doesnt. How does it go with an already naturally driven tube amp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thezeng Posted March 21, 2008 Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 tube zone brings the so does the subdecay blackstar. or use an EQ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tattoedsailor Posted March 21, 2008 Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 I too have both pedals. By far i think their the best dirt boxes out there right now. My OCD is a V4. Throw tubescreamer in front it. Ive got MI audio old blue boy set to fat setting. With clean boost the OCD sounds incrediable. In fact Fulltone recommends fulldrive 2 in front it for a clean boost. For metal stick to crunch box for everything else the OCD should cover it. I couldn't believe how good my Blue boy sounded in front of my OCD. Personally I think MI makes some best pedals for money out there. There blue boy is the best screamer clone ive heard yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members metallica_00 Posted March 21, 2008 Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 I know what you're saying. I have the v3 OCD and it is certainly an amazing pedal in terms of the dynamic response and the way it cleans up with the guitar volume. But it doesn't "sing" with lots of sustain. My solution has been to use the OCD for crunchier parts and more for the rhythm playing, and then I use my Barber Direct Drive if I want a more liquid solo sound. Admittedly, the shortfall of the Direct Drive is that it doesn't have that responsiveness the OCD has and is way more compressed like a TS. So unfortunately I don't really have an answer for you...my solution has been to use two pedals that complement each other. I'm not a huge fan of cascading pedals; or at least the OCD and DD don't seem to like each other that much in that sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grayeyes777 Posted March 21, 2008 Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 hit the crunch box with an eq.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RJpilot Posted March 24, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 24, 2008 Thanks for the replies guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brother_Budro Posted March 24, 2008 Members Share Posted March 24, 2008 how do i know what version OCD i have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bennintexas Posted March 24, 2008 Members Share Posted March 24, 2008 ive got both and havent used the crunchbox since the ocd came in. i have not offered anything to this discussion and am going to go kill myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members revontulet Posted March 24, 2008 Members Share Posted March 24, 2008 how do i know what version OCD i have? Version one (serial numbers #000 - #4563) looks like this inside: http://www.elisanet.fi/flaser_phanger/images/ocd_board_v1.jpg Version two (serial numbers #4564 - #9473): http://www.elisanet.fi/flaser_phanger/images/ocd_board_v2.jpg Version three (serial numbers from #9474 upward):: http://www.elisanet.fi/flaser_phanger/images/ocd_board_v3.jpg Stolen from the site posted above. Dunno when v3 became v4 though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Flaser_Phanger Posted March 24, 2008 Members Share Posted March 24, 2008 Dunno when v3 became v4 though.. All OCD:s with serial above #16,061 are v4. I have a v4 in the mail right now, I'll try to update the article within a week or two. Jake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RJpilot Posted March 24, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 24, 2008 Posted a clip of my v1 ocd boosted with a fd-2 on this thread...http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1931792 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Craggan Posted March 25, 2008 Members Share Posted March 25, 2008 my OCD has a smaller serial #, but says Rev. 4 in it. AJS Rev. 4 14638 9/6/07 In my opinion, the OCD rev changes are one of the biggest new pedal scams. I feel, he could have released a tweakable version .. similar to what barber does, and we could have all revs of the OCD in one box .. but NO .. let me spend 170$ x 4 .. = 680$ 680$ in OCD pedals if you bought each rev, .. hoping for that Ultimate tone revision change in on of the best OD's out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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