Members garyfanclub Posted March 21, 2008 Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 Alright, so serious thread this time... After hearing a lot of stuff that's come out lately, I feel like every thing's pretty much been done. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Snowden Posted March 21, 2008 Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 I think it'll be worked in to a more straight up rock context. I've been thinking about this lately. There is only so many times you can build up, explode, die down again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pbone Posted March 21, 2008 Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 That could be said for everything. It's gonna keep going. I mean, 90% of the people on here probably play "kinda ambient post-rock stuff" including myself, but I don't think it's gonna fade out of existence for a while yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Collapse Posted March 21, 2008 Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 Bach probably already wrote every good melody you've ever come up with too. Shrug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jakkeh Posted March 21, 2008 Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 With guys like This Will Destroy You, World Ends Girlfriend and Mono on the scene, I'm happy. But I see where you're coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members garyfanclub Posted March 21, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 I think it'll be worked in to a more straight up rock context. I've been thinking about this lately. There is only so many times you can build up, explode, die down again. Well yeah, that's the thing. A lot of these bands also don't seem to be branching out of this mold. There seems to be a lot of experimentation with samples, string arrangements (to varying degrees of tastefulness), long, pretentious song names that are supposed to give meaning to an otherwise lack-luster and boring song. I guess I feel like GSYBE quit when they did because they felt like they said everything they had to say. As a guy that plays a lot of post-rock, I feel like my genre is stagnating. And furthermore, I don't feel like I'm doing anything too different from what's already been done. (feels an identity crisis coming on). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NetStar Posted March 21, 2008 Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 (feels an identity crisis coming on). Just join this band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members garyfanclub Posted March 21, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 who dat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Snowden Posted March 21, 2008 Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 (feels an identity crisis coming on). This should make you feel better... http://youtube.com/watch?v=dnNNN6S-YcE I just see post-rock as modern day classical music. I love the sonic space it can take up, but I'm trying to get away from using reverbs and delays to do that and more dynamic interlocking guitar lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NetStar Posted March 21, 2008 Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 Some {censored} that formed after Busted (You heard of them, it was basically three young guys, with no drummer, playing guitar and acting like a rock band) split up. Charlie from busted focussed attention on Fightstar his heavy-ish band. One fizzled into obscurity and the third, blond with brown bits, formed this pile of cat {censored} and sung Blink 182 rip-off crap to the remainder of his pre teen girl fan club. I believe they are on hiatus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members garyfanclub Posted March 21, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 This should make you feel better...http://youtube.com/watch?v=dnNNN6S-YcEI just see post-rock as modern day classical music. I love the sonic space it can take up, but I'm trying to get away from using reverbs and delays to do that and more dynamic interlocking guitar lines. As for the classical thing, I agree. People dismiss the lack of technicality but I definitely definitely definitely think it takes a bit of thought and creative playing to make a truly interesting post-rock song. Not to mention guitarists that know their way around the neck as to create counter-point in different octaves. I'm not really against 'verb and delay though. I mostly just use a lot of reverb though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ArrMatey Posted March 21, 2008 Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 Some {censored} that formed after Busted (You heard of them, it was basically three young guys, with no drummer, playing guitar and acting like a rock band) split up.Charlie from busted focussed attention on Fightstar his heavy-ish band.One fizzled into obscurityand the third, blond with brown bits, formed this pile of cat {censored} and sung Blink 182 rip-off crap to the remainder of his pre teen girl fan club.I believe they are on hiatus... Charlie is the only one out of them with real musical talent and drive. He is a great guy and their new album shows that they are going in a good direction expressing their musical talents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Clorox Posted March 21, 2008 Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 A lot of post rock's appeal lies in the live shows for me. EITS makes good albums, but they were absolutely amazing when I saw them live last weekend. The huge builds and explosions really mean a lot more when you're out in the audience, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members desertlimosine Posted March 21, 2008 Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 Future of Post-Rock = Lyrics I personally think the mixing of genres and such allow them to transcend. Something like Hip-Hop Post-Rock, Ambient Hip-Hop, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JBecker Posted March 21, 2008 Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 I think it'll be worked in to a more straight up rock context. I've been thinking about this lately. There is only so many times you can build up, explode, die down again. I think this is true. I listen to a ton of post-rock and find it to be really interesting and awesome... but I don't think there is a ton of room left to explore and I think that this kind of sonic space is going to just become integrated into other contexts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Drumas funk Posted March 21, 2008 Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 I was listening to a lot of post-rock. It became pretty boring after a little while. There are some bands that add some individuality to it, but a lot have also fallen into some pretty formative writing in terms of genre cliches. While it can get tedious, I still enjoy tossing on EITS or Jaga Jazzist, etc... Lately I've been on a hip hop kick, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members erk0000 Posted March 21, 2008 Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 i was thinking about this the other day.im a history major, with an interest in music theory and history so i have a lot of opinions on his.i think its safe to say that the height of post rock was somewhere between slint spiderland and mogwai rock action. i say that because it seemed that rock action was when music critiques started really ragging on the quiet loud song structure.this also seemed to be at a time when the popularity of post rock had increased greatly. and one could say that current american post rock is currently idling in this state. it was at this time the definition of post rock was set, along with the formula and song structure. in cox and awrners book audio culture readings in modern music simon reynolds wrote a really interesting essay about post rock discussing how post rock in england has roots in dub as well as electronica which american post rock seems to lack. american post rock is more focused on morphing classical american forms of rock or jazz music. so why does american post rock seem stuck? well because there is has been set in place a template for one and two there is a very limited scope of influences in american post rock, mainly rock and jazz. also in regards to people saying there are only so many ways to write a song with a quiet loud song structure or only so many times that you can build up to a crescendo. i would like to point out that most symphonies are composed in a prescribed form of 4 movements fast, slow, dance, fast and how many symphonies have been written in the last 400 years? or hell if you think about it most rock songs are just loud, or they have maybe a quiet bridge. these are just a few of my thoughts on the subject. im actually considering writing an academic essay on topic with more fleshed out examination and explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Drumas funk Posted March 21, 2008 Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 Future of Post-Rock = LyricsI personally think the mixing of genres and such allow them to transcend. Something like Hip-Hop Post-Rock, Ambient Hip-Hop, etc...That'd be pretty cool to see. I always wondered why most post rock was instrumental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jbrazz Posted March 21, 2008 Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 in rainbows. Anyone here like MF Doom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Snowden Posted March 21, 2008 Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 also in regards to people saying there are only so many ways to write a song with a quiet loud song structure or only so many times that you can build up to a crescendo. i would like to point out that most symphonies are composed in a prescribed form of 4 movements fast, slow, dance, fast and how many symphonies have been written in the last 400 years? or hell if you think about it most rock songs are just loud, or they have maybe a quiet bridge. True. But most post-rock bands have the usual rock music instruments. There are a lot more ways to construct a song using an orchestra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Clorox Posted March 21, 2008 Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 Thats good to know, I think Im seeing them on the 30th. They were awesome, but their opening act.... This guy came out and laid down a loop using an ebow. Then he started doing this weird shrieking, kind of like what they always play when characters are crossing the desert in a movie. Then he got this really huge, fat bass oscillation that kind of sounded like a helicopter...this sound comes in and out and it was the LOUDEST thing I have ever heard. I saw a handful of people walk out because they couldn't take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Drumas funk Posted March 21, 2008 Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 i was thinking about this the other day.im a history major, with an interest in music theory and history so i have a lot of opinions on his.i think its safe to say that the height of post rock was somewhere between slint spiderland and mogwai rock action. i say that because it seemed that rock action was when music critiques started really ragging on the quiet loud song structure.this also seemed to be at a time when the popularity of post rock had increased greatly. and one could say that current american post rock is currently idling in this state. it was at this time the definition of post rock was set, along with the formula and song structure.in cox and awrners book audio culture readings in modern music simon reynolds wrote a really interesting essay about post rock discussing how post rock in england has roots in dub as well as electronica which american post rock seems to lack. american post rock is more focused on morphing classical american forms of rock or jazz music.so why does american post rock seem stuck? well because there is has been set in place a template for one and two there is a very limited scope of influences in american post rock, mainly rock and jazz.also in regards to people saying there are only so many ways to write a song with a quiet loud song structure or only so many times that you can build up to a crescendo. i would like to point out that most symphonies are composed in a prescribed form of 4 movements fast, slow, dance, fast and how many symphonies have been written in the last 400 years? or hell if you think about it most rock songs are just loud, or they have maybe a quiet bridge.these are just a few of my thoughts on the subject. im actually considering writing an academic essay on topic with more fleshed out examination and explanation. I checked that book out on Amazon and it looks really interesting, I think I'm going to get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SpectralJulian Posted March 21, 2008 Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 You crazy genrephiles. I like bands not styles. If you just look at music by strict genres, you could say most genres are dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stratman Tigers Posted March 21, 2008 Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 You crazy genrephiles. I like bands not styles. If you just look at music by strict genres, you could say most genres are dead. Exactly. When I play, I don't think "How good can I get" I think "How can I sound different?" or "How creative can I get?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cloudscapes Posted March 21, 2008 Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 I am just gonna post I hate the term "post-rock", it deosnt make any sense to meI'm not worried. I ingore terms and genres and choose to look for bands regardlesss of popularn omclature I just got back from seeing ASMZ not 30 minutes agothey are not post-rck or whatever. makes me laugh when peopel stil lthink they are. anyways they are aweosme. I miss scott tho yes I am drunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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