Members petritheturtle Posted March 24, 2008 Members Share Posted March 24, 2008 Hi I'm trying to get a rig that that tries to achieve the sound that Josh Homme got in his Kyuss years. I understand that he used a Ovation Ultra GP. I'm really unclear as to what type of effects he was using during the kyuss years, or what type i should get to resemble his sound. Thanks in advance for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FatsoForgotso Posted March 24, 2008 Members Share Posted March 24, 2008 oh yes the Homme rig... I've spent many early morning hours looking into this and this is what I've come up with. He used an Ampeg V4. Awesome little versatile amp, not necessary to his sound but it helps. As you mentioned, the Ovation GP which produces a unique sound, very unique. If you don't feel like dropping the money on a used one...if you can find one, Eastwood makes a copy of it. He bought it for 199 dollars cause it was the only guitar in the Idaho store that could keep drop C tuning. And effects. As I'm sure you know, homme changes his pedal board with every album it seems. He'll change his modulation from a Delay to a phase to even a Rotovibe, but for his dirt my belief is that he used a Boss DS-1 pumped right into a cranked V4 with tons upon tons of Bass. The reality is, I can get lots of Kyuss sounding stuff out of my pedals alone. Its an sound that attainable with a variety of gear, you just have to sit and tweek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dr.Picklebottom Posted March 24, 2008 Members Share Posted March 24, 2008 he used a lot of different stuff back then. ive seen a kyuss show pic w/ him rocking an SG custom into a marshall halfstack. enough to make most of these obscure gear seekers cringe, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FatsoForgotso Posted March 24, 2008 Members Share Posted March 24, 2008 he used a lot of different stuff back then. ive seen a kyuss show pic w/ him rocking an SG custom into a marshall halfstack. enough to make most of these obscure gear seekers cringe, huh? I've seen him use those too but I've always based my findings off of Welcome to Sky Valley and Circus as those are the peak of his tones ever...even better than queens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sonaboy Posted March 24, 2008 Members Share Posted March 24, 2008 what a charming project. you'll never get there. the "Kyuss sound" isn't a product of the guitar rig - it's the sum of every part being played by all the members together. the amps were CRANKEDthe drums were BIG and hit HARDthe bass rig was colossal - mostly 18" speakersthe guitar rig was a combination of tube, SS and 12" and 15" speakersi saw this on their Circus tour. you will basically waste a lot of time and money putting together something that won't be a match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hua and a tele Posted March 24, 2008 Members Share Posted March 24, 2008 The easiest I would think like I said in the thread you started in amps. A loud clean amp cranked with a ds-1. The key is the c tuning and the use of the neck pickup exclusively Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rockstrongo Posted March 24, 2008 Members Share Posted March 24, 2008 I've got a couple of live Kyuss tapes and his tone doesn't sound anything like it does on the record. That's mostly due to the fact that he used 2 or even 3 amps mic'd at the same time to get that sound. Also, Scott Reeder's bass had a lot to do with that tone too (or whatever bass player was playing with them at the moment). As far as I know though, he adopted pretty much the same rig during Blues For The Red Sun that he used at the beginning of Queens: a tri amp setup with one facing forward and the other two facing each other, kinda like an open square, and a Boss SD-1 pushing it all. The amps where Ampeg V4 heads usually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sonaboy Posted March 24, 2008 Members Share Posted March 24, 2008 I've got a couple of live Kyuss tapes and his tone doesn't sound anything like it does on the record. That's mostly due to the fact that he used 2 or even 3 amps mic'd at the same time to get that sound. Also, Scott Reeder's bass had a lot to do with that tone too (or whatever bass player was playing with them at the moment).As far as I know though, he adopted pretty much the same rig during Blues For The Red Sun that he used at the beginning of Queens: a tri amp setup with one facing forward and the other two facing each other, kinda like an open square, and a Boss SD-1 pushing it all. The amps where Ampeg V4 heads usually. I was quite surprised when Josh showed up in our bar with a couple of Tubeworks Mosfet heads driving a couple of 2x15" cabs. He still had the Ovation set on the neck PUp though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Virex Posted March 24, 2008 Members Share Posted March 24, 2008 As a big Kyuss fan ("Welcome..." is one of the best albums ever made), my band mate has tried to copy Josh pretty hard, and the Visual Sound H20 achieves a better mimicking of the chorus sound than I've ever heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lukeswall Posted March 25, 2008 Members Share Posted March 25, 2008 The easiest I would think like I said in the thread you started in amps. A loud clean amp cranked with a ds-1. The key is the c tuning and the use of the neck pickup exclusively neck? really?that's cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Instrospection Posted March 25, 2008 Members Share Posted March 25, 2008 Yeah, as others mentioned, Homme used the neck pickup most (all?) of the time. Big Kyuss fan here, they really honed the Sabbath sound into something very unique. Not to be underestimated is Joe Barresi's production---he had a big hand in that sound as engineer; less so than Chris Goss. Hahaa, I can't find it right now, but there's a really early Kyuss video of them (pre-Wretch) at something like a high school, where Homme is playing a BC Rich Warlock. I kid you not! If anyone finds it, post it here for a good chuckle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Virex Posted March 25, 2008 Members Share Posted March 25, 2008 I would piss myself seeing Josh with a guitar that turbo. We do have to mention I suppose in defense that he did start that band when he was in high school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Destructobot Posted March 25, 2008 Members Share Posted March 25, 2008 Neck pu, loud amp with a bit of grit, and just about any bass-heavy dirt pedal with the tone rolled off a bit. It's not rocket science, just use your ears. He got that sound by using random ass gear he could afford when he was broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members R Corso Posted March 25, 2008 Members Share Posted March 25, 2008 Lookit all the stoners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Instrospection Posted March 25, 2008 Members Share Posted March 25, 2008 He got that sound by using random ass gear he could afford when he was broke. That could pertain to half my favorite players! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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