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Holy Stain Clean Mode?

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I am generally very happy with the HS, for all the reasons mentioned in other posts. But, the one trouble I do have is that the clean mode sounds much more distorted than on the demos I seen/heard. Is there a setting that I am missing to clean it up?

 

(I know that it is not supposed to be completely clean. But right now, it very much more distorted than I'd like.)

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I think it depends how hot the signal is going into it, if you put high output humbuckers or a pedal with the gain cranked into it, it will distort more, same if you have the stain's volume cranked...mines clean as clean can be. :idk:

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I am using a LP w/ humbuckers. I wouldn't think that by itself is enough to cause what I am hearing.

 

I guess it's broken then. :idk:

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Hopefully not hijacking too much, but is it just me or is the trem sort of phasey? Also, maybe it's just mine, but on clean settings, there is a bit of bleed amongst the four effects...Like reverb getting into the trem or pitchshift?

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I haven't experienced any effects bleed-through, and it woudn't make sense for it to have any because the effects are done with a DSP chip that can't just combine different algorithms into one mixed effect at a time.

 

However, the reason the clean sounds dirty is because it is dirty. It's still running it through the dirt section. Read the manual on it. Humbuckers are enough to get grit out of it. That was the biggest reason I didn't buy the Holy Stain despite enjoying the reverb on it immensely and also being very impressed with the Fuzz setting. If they had some way to use the dirt and effects with or without eachother, that is, individual bypasses, I'd have a Holy Stain on my board right now, but as it is, no thanks.

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Hopefully not hijacking too much, but is it just me or is the trem sort of phasey? Also, maybe it's just mine, but on clean settings, there is a bit of bleed amongst the four effects...Like reverb getting into the trem or pitchshift?

 

The amount knob naturally gives more reverb turned clockwise. A cool feature

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Hopefully not hijacking too much, but is it just me or is the trem sort of phasey? Also, maybe it's just mine, but on clean settings, there is a bit of bleed amongst the four effects...Like reverb getting into the trem or pitchshift?

 

um...no they don't bleed, the trem does have reverb on it though, read the manual!!

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I haven't experienced any effects bleed-through, and it woudn't make sense for it to have any because the effects are done with a DSP chip that can't just combine different algorithms into one mixed effect at a time.


However, the reason the clean sounds dirty is because it is dirty. It's still running it through the dirt section. Read the manual on it. Humbuckers are enough to get grit out of it. That was the biggest reason I didn't buy the Holy Stain despite enjoying the reverb on it immensely and also being very impressed with the Fuzz setting. If they had some way to use the dirt and effects with or without eachother, that is, individual bypasses, I'd have a Holy Stain on my board right now, but as it is, no thanks.

I think my humbuckers are too much for it, too. That said, I think that I can find a use for it.

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i love manuals..

 

and to the OP; humbuckers can definitely be set-up hot enough to cause grit in pedals you'd not expect to... if you're loving the HS, why not try lower your pickups, etc?

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manual? people read those?
:confused:

 

The manual doesn't address this issue. What's wrong with asking advice from someone who might have encountered this problem and might have solved it? :poke:

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The manual doesn't address this issue. What's wrong with asking advice from someone who might have encountered this problem and might have solved it? :poke:

 

The manual does too address the issue, though. Read it again. I don't even own the pedal, I tried it for a few minutes in the store after reading the manual, and I specifically remember the manual saying that the clean still uses the dirt section so it might not be totally clean depending on how hot your pickups are.

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So, I guess we aren't allowed to now ask any questions about anything in the manual?
:confused:

 

chill out guys, I mentioned the manual NOT with regard to the cleans, but with regard to the tremolo having reverb on it. The reverb isn't bleeding through, the tremolo setting is 'tremolo+reverb'

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So, I guess we aren't allowed to now ask any questions about anything in the manual?
:confused:

 

In argumentation this is called "shifting the goalposts." To shift the goalposts means to see that one has been refuted, and then counter by ignoring that refutation and trying to say "But I really meant this, which you have not addressed!" It's bad argumentation and pretty transparent, so don't do that.

 

In other words, of course we're allowed to ask questions about things in the manual if we feel it doesn't fully answer our concerns, but what you did was say

 

The manual doesn't address this issue. What's wrong with asking advice from someone who might have encountered this problem and might have solved it?

 

which you're trying to back off from now. Bad show, my good man!

 

But all the same, I'm glad you were able to figure out what's going on. The good news about the Holy Stain is that it has a very dynamic dirt circuit in it, so you can probably control the degree of breakup by backing off your guitar's volume.

 

I really do wish that they had three footswitches on the thing! One for effects on/off, one for dirt on/off, and one for effects mode change. That would make the unit about a hundred times more useful in my opinion, and would guarantee it a spot on my board. As it is, I actually wish I could justify having it, but it would be a waste of space even though I quite like both its dirt (especially the awesome, awesome Fuzz setting) and its effects (especially the Reverb and Trem). Oh, well :)

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