Members Chris B. Posted March 29, 2008 Members Share Posted March 29, 2008 I am generally very happy with the HS, for all the reasons mentioned in other posts. But, the one trouble I do have is that the clean mode sounds much more distorted than on the demos I seen/heard. Is there a setting that I am missing to clean it up? (I know that it is not supposed to be completely clean. But right now, it very much more distorted than I'd like.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members melx Posted March 29, 2008 Members Share Posted March 29, 2008 I think it depends how hot the signal is going into it, if you put high output humbuckers or a pedal with the gain cranked into it, it will distort more, same if you have the stain's volume cranked...mines clean as clean can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chris B. Posted March 29, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 29, 2008 I am using a LP w/ humbuckers. I wouldn't think that by itself is enough to cause what I am hearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members melx Posted March 29, 2008 Members Share Posted March 29, 2008 I am using a LP w/ humbuckers. I wouldn't think that by itself is enough to cause what I am hearing. I guess it's broken then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chris B. Posted March 29, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 29, 2008 Maybe. I'll keep playing with volume/mix knobs.... for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members flippant81 Posted March 29, 2008 Members Share Posted March 29, 2008 Hopefully not hijacking too much, but is it just me or is the trem sort of phasey? Also, maybe it's just mine, but on clean settings, there is a bit of bleed amongst the four effects...Like reverb getting into the trem or pitchshift? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Agreed Posted March 29, 2008 Members Share Posted March 29, 2008 I haven't experienced any effects bleed-through, and it woudn't make sense for it to have any because the effects are done with a DSP chip that can't just combine different algorithms into one mixed effect at a time. However, the reason the clean sounds dirty is because it is dirty. It's still running it through the dirt section. Read the manual on it. Humbuckers are enough to get grit out of it. That was the biggest reason I didn't buy the Holy Stain despite enjoying the reverb on it immensely and also being very impressed with the Fuzz setting. If they had some way to use the dirt and effects with or without eachother, that is, individual bypasses, I'd have a Holy Stain on my board right now, but as it is, no thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KjStrat62 Posted March 29, 2008 Members Share Posted March 29, 2008 Hopefully not hijacking too much, but is it just me or is the trem sort of phasey? Also, maybe it's just mine, but on clean settings, there is a bit of bleed amongst the four effects...Like reverb getting into the trem or pitchshift? The amount knob naturally gives more reverb turned clockwise. A cool feature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members melx Posted March 29, 2008 Members Share Posted March 29, 2008 Hopefully not hijacking too much, but is it just me or is the trem sort of phasey? Also, maybe it's just mine, but on clean settings, there is a bit of bleed amongst the four effects...Like reverb getting into the trem or pitchshift? um...no they don't bleed, the trem does have reverb on it though, read the manual!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chris B. Posted March 30, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 30, 2008 I haven't experienced any effects bleed-through, and it woudn't make sense for it to have any because the effects are done with a DSP chip that can't just combine different algorithms into one mixed effect at a time.However, the reason the clean sounds dirty is because it is dirty. It's still running it through the dirt section. Read the manual on it. Humbuckers are enough to get grit out of it. That was the biggest reason I didn't buy the Holy Stain despite enjoying the reverb on it immensely and also being very impressed with the Fuzz setting. If they had some way to use the dirt and effects with or without eachother, that is, individual bypasses, I'd have a Holy Stain on my board right now, but as it is, no thanks. I think my humbuckers are too much for it, too. That said, I think that I can find a use for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members flippant81 Posted March 30, 2008 Members Share Posted March 30, 2008 manual? people read those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members justintee Posted March 30, 2008 Members Share Posted March 30, 2008 i love manuals.. and to the OP; humbuckers can definitely be set-up hot enough to cause grit in pedals you'd not expect to... if you're loving the HS, why not try lower your pickups, etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chris B. Posted March 30, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 30, 2008 manual? people read those? The manual doesn't address this issue. What's wrong with asking advice from someone who might have encountered this problem and might have solved it? :poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Agreed Posted March 30, 2008 Members Share Posted March 30, 2008 The manual doesn't address this issue. What's wrong with asking advice from someone who might have encountered this problem and might have solved it? :poke: The manual does too address the issue, though. Read it again. I don't even own the pedal, I tried it for a few minutes in the store after reading the manual, and I specifically remember the manual saying that the clean still uses the dirt section so it might not be totally clean depending on how hot your pickups are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chris B. Posted March 30, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 30, 2008 So, I guess we aren't allowed to now ask any questions about anything in the manual? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members melx Posted March 30, 2008 Members Share Posted March 30, 2008 So, I guess we aren't allowed to now ask any questions about anything in the manual? chill out guys, I mentioned the manual NOT with regard to the cleans, but with regard to the tremolo having reverb on it. The reverb isn't bleeding through, the tremolo setting is 'tremolo+reverb' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chris B. Posted March 30, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 30, 2008 I think that I agree that my humbuckers are overdriving it too much. I am out. Thanks for the input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Agreed Posted March 30, 2008 Members Share Posted March 30, 2008 So, I guess we aren't allowed to now ask any questions about anything in the manual? In argumentation this is called "shifting the goalposts." To shift the goalposts means to see that one has been refuted, and then counter by ignoring that refutation and trying to say "But I really meant this, which you have not addressed!" It's bad argumentation and pretty transparent, so don't do that. In other words, of course we're allowed to ask questions about things in the manual if we feel it doesn't fully answer our concerns, but what you did was say The manual doesn't address this issue. What's wrong with asking advice from someone who might have encountered this problem and might have solved it? which you're trying to back off from now. Bad show, my good man! But all the same, I'm glad you were able to figure out what's going on. The good news about the Holy Stain is that it has a very dynamic dirt circuit in it, so you can probably control the degree of breakup by backing off your guitar's volume. I really do wish that they had three footswitches on the thing! One for effects on/off, one for dirt on/off, and one for effects mode change. That would make the unit about a hundred times more useful in my opinion, and would guarantee it a spot on my board. As it is, I actually wish I could justify having it, but it would be a waste of space even though I quite like both its dirt (especially the awesome, awesome Fuzz setting) and its effects (especially the Reverb and Trem). Oh, well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KjStrat62 Posted March 30, 2008 Members Share Posted March 30, 2008 I love mine. So what if the clean mode displays a little grit. Adds t:thu:o the mojo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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