You. Will. Be. MOD-UL-AT-ED (Dalek content)

[Marmoset King]

I was watching BBC breakfast tv this morning and as there's a new series of Dr Who starting tonight they had on the guy who does the voices for the Daleks. And there on the desk in front of him was a Moog 'Moogerfooger' Ring Modulator that his microphone was plugged into

 

I'd not really thought about how they did the voices before but it's kinda cool that it's a Moogerfooger. I have a Murf but not a ring mod ... there's no doubt though that if i had one i'd find a microphone and make Dalek voices all day long ... i'm such a geek.

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the BBC radiophonic workshop were amazing at making sounds for the original doctor who

 

there studio looked amazing

 

 

delia derbyshire made the original sound track using tone generators (only controlled with one knob) recorded to tape and the speed up/slowed down to create the parts

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF2x5IKxmAQ

[melx]

I was watching BBC breakfast tv this morning and as there's a new series of Dr Who starting tonight they had on the guy who does the voices for the Daleks. And there on the desk in front of him was a Moog 'Moogerfooger' Ring Modulator that his microphone was plugged into I'd not really thought about how they did the voices before but it's kinda cool that it's a Moogerfooger. I have a Murf but not a ring mod ... there's no doubt though that if i had one i'd find a microphone and make Dalek voices all day long ... i'm such a geek.

 

yeah, I saw this on the Box set extras, very cool.

 

I've been plugging my microphone into all sorts lately.......you can do a good 'diddy dick and dom' with a micro pog!!

[mike.sartori]

My dad is obsessed with that show. It's very creative. I guess he's always watching the ones from 2-3 years ago, on BBC america.

[IvIark]

you can do a good 'diddy dick

 

 

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[Stubacca]

Oh my goodness.... that is the greatest show ever! You think you are a geek? I download that {censored} every time the day after its on in the UK. LOVE LOVE LOVE IT!! They have the new series 4 trailer up on the BBC site and at the end of it there are the quick flashes with dramatic music (of course)... the new girl Donna, then Martha from series 3 and then..... ROSE! wooohooo

 

Yes, I am ok with being a loser!

[english_bob]

Some more things to plug your mic into:

 

 

Robotic voice effects From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia "Robot voices" became a recurring element in popular music during the late twentieth century, and several methods of producing variations on this effect have arisen. Though the vocoder is by far the best-known, the following other pieces of music technology are often confused with it: Sonovox This was an early version of the talk box used to create the voice of the piano in the Sparky's Magic Piano series from 1947. It was used as the voice of many musical instruments in Rusty in Orchestraville. It was used as the voice of Casey the Train in Dumbo and The Reluctant Dragon. Radio jingle companies PAMS and JAM Creative Productions also used the sonovox in many stations ID's they produced. Talk box The talk box guitar effect was invented by Doug Forbes and popularized by Peter Frampton. In the talk box effect, amplified sound is actually fed via a tube into the performer's mouth and is then shaped by the performer's lip, tongue, and mouth movements before being picked up by a microphone. In contrast, the vocoder effect is produced entirely electronically. The background riff from "Livin' on a Prayer" by Bon Jovi is a well-known example. "California Love" by 2Pac and Roger Troutman is a more recent recording featuring a talk box fed with a synthesizer instead of guitar. Steven Drozd of the The Flaming Lips used the talk box on parts of the groups most recent album, At War with the Mystics, to imitate some of Wayne Coyne's repeated lyrics in the "Yeah Yeah Yeah Song". Autotuner The vocoder should also not be confused with the Antares Auto-Tune Pitch Correcting Plug-In, which can also be used to achieve a robotic-sounding vocal effect by quantizing (removing smooth changes in) voice pitch or by adding pitch changes. This has been employed in recent years by artists such as Daft Punk (who also use vocoders and talk boxes), Cher, T-Pain, and the Italian dance/pop group Eiffel 65. Linear prediction coding Linear prediction coding is also used as a musical effect (generally for cross-synthesis of musical timbres), but is not as popular as bandpass filter bank vocoders, and the musical use of the word vocoder refers exclusively to the latter type of device. Ring modulator Although ring modulation usually doesn't work well with melodic sounds, it can be used to make speech sound robotic. As an example, it has been used to robotify the voices of the Daleks in Dr Who. Speech synthesis Robotic voices in music may also be produced by speech synthesis. This does not usually create a "singing" effect (although it can). Speech synthesis means that, unlike in vocoding, no human speech is employed as basis. One example of such use is the song Das Boot by U96. A more tongue-in-cheek musical use of speech synthesis is MC Hawking. Most notably, Kraftwerk, who had previously used the vocoder extensively in their 1970s recordings, began opting for speech synthesis software in place of vocoders starting with 1981's Computer World album; on newer recordings and in the reworked versions of older songs that appear on The Mix and the band's current live show, the previously vocoder-processed vocals have been almost completely replaced by software-synthesized "singing". Comb filter A comb filter can be used to single out a few frequencies in the audio signal producing a sharp, resonating transformation of the voice. Comb filtering can be performed with a delay unit set to a high feedback level and delay time of less than a tenth of a second. Of the robot voice effects listed here, this one requires the least resources, since delay units are a staple of recording studios and sound editing software. As the effect deprives a voice of much of its musical qualities (and has few options for sound customization), the robotic delay is mostly used in TV/movie applications. Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robotic_voice_effects"

 

[Marmoset King]

the BBC radiophonic workshop were amazing at making sounds for the original doctor who there studio looked amazing delia derbyshire made the original sound track using tone generators (only controlled with one knob) recorded to tape and the speed up/slowed down to create the parts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF2x5IKxmAQ

 

The original 60s theme is amazing, still really spooky sounding. I grew up watching Dr Who in the 70s and the music brings back lots of memories ... mostly hiding behind a cushion from the scary monsters

[Marmoset King]

Oh my goodness.... that is the greatest show ever! You think you are a geek? I download that {censored} every time the day after its on in the UK. LOVE LOVE LOVE IT!! They have the new series 4 trailer up on the BBC site and at the end of it there are the quick flashes with dramatic music (of course)... the new girl Donna, then Martha from series 3 and then..... ROSE! wooohooo Yes, I am ok with being a loser!

 

Ah i love it too. I was a bit worried when they brought it back that it would be rubbish but it's great fun. They've done a really good job of reviving it.

 

I remember that the Sylvester McCoy years and before that the Colin Baker years were just terrible. I spent my childhood watching Tom Baker as the Doctor in the 70s and loved it then. They do look really bad when you see the re-runs though. They're so much better now, better stories, better actors, everything.

 

Can't wait to see it tonight.

[english_bob]

I'd prefer some more in-depth storytelling. I'm not a regular Doctor Who watcher, but more often than not the single-episode storylines feel like full-length films crammed into a shorter running time, which means they end up rushed and don't build character or tension. Of course, I'm not a ten year-old, which I think is their target audience, so I don't suppose they care what I think.

 

Having said that, some of their stories have been awesome- the "Blink" episode from the last series for instance...

[mark7171]

what did start trek use?

 

or the transformers cartoons?

[melx]

OMG, that was great tonight!!

 

ROSE!!??

[HeartfeltDawn]

I stand by the old Doctor Who. I love them all from Hartnell to McCoy. I haven't seen tonight's new episode. I suspect this will be the time when RTD turns the show into a monumental pile of {censored}e. Most of the episodes in the last season were like that. I want proper sci-fi coolness, not soap relationship bull{censored} wrapped in a sci-fi cover.

 

I've got many years of Doctor Who magazines and it's great reading them when they interview the sound effects and music people. The Radiophonic Workshop was astounding. Read the Wikipedia history of the theme tune to understand more:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who_theme_music

 

Something like the TARDIS dematerializing:

 

 

The basic audio source Hodgson used for the TARDIS effect was the sound of his house keys being scraped up and down along the strings of an old gutted piano, and played backwards. The famous Dalek voice effect was obtained by passing the actors' voices through a device called a ring modulator, and it was further enhanced by exploiting the distortion inherent in the microphones and amplifiers then in use. However, the precise sonic character of the Daleks' voices varied somewhat over time because the original frequency settings used on the ring modulator were never noted down.

 

 

The 'Delaware' synth they used in the 1970s was an EMS Synthi 100. Check out some links and the Youtube link:

 

http://www.synthmuseum.com/ems/emssynthi10001.html

 

http://www.vintagesynth.com/index2.html

 

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[melx]

I stand by the old Doctor Who. I love them all from Hartnell to McCoy. I haven't seen tonight's new episode. I suspect this will be the time when RTD turns the show into a monumental pile of {censored}e. Most of the episodes in the last season were like that. I want proper sci-fi coolness, not soap relationship bull{censored} wrapped in a sci-fi cover.

 

hahaha, you're gonna hate it!!

 

but I still think it was great.

[HeartfeltDawn]

I know I'll hate it. Catherine Tate becoming a regular doesn't help but dragging Billie {censored}ing Piper back yet again... jesus.

 

Lord, dear sweet Lord, get Russell T Davies away from Doctor Who and let someone good write episodes all the time.

 

I love that EMS Synthi 100. That pic of it in the second link is so cool. I want one purely so when people boast abotu the size of their pedalboards, I could retort back with 'So? Here's my synth. It's almost the size of a Mini'.

[cobalt-60]

They need to sick that guy on Raymond Scott's Electronium, although fixing that would probably be impossible seeing as it was a one of a kind that was constantly being rebuilt.

 

If you didn't know, Raymond Scott, besides being the guy that wrote the Looney Tunes songs, was an early pioneer of electronic music from the 1950s to the early 70s. Unfortunately he was paranoid as hell, and never let anyone see his stuff (except an impressed, young Bob Moog), so he never really got much credit until recently; the man was a prophet.

 

Anyway, the Electronium was a crazy-ass uber-synth, designed as a "instantaneous composition-performance machine", that he obsessively worked on. As the digital age came in, he lost interest and started hacking it up for parts. It's now a half-ton paperweight in Mark Mothersbaugh's office.

[HeartfeltDawn]

...and it's also here:

 

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