Members ToneSlinger Posted April 6, 2008 Members Share Posted April 6, 2008 Alright, I've been working on this for the past few months and finally got everything recorded and updated. One thing that drives me nuts is searching online at manufacturers and retailers websites to hear tone samples of guitars, amps, and effects only to find that they have gone the extra mile to make their product sound as good as they possibly can. Honestly, you can't really blame them for this, who wouldn't want their product to shine and manufactures are just trying to showcase their products. The problem is that it puts us, the consumer, at a disadvantage. If you are like me and you research products extensively before buying, you probably know more about it when you walk into the music store than the poor salesman trying to earn his commission. Finally a true A/B test for overdrive and distortion effects. I used all the overdrive/distortion effectst that I have and played the exact same thing through each. I also set the effects at the exact same settings as much as possible. Finally, I used both single coil and humbucker to give a little more idea of what each would sound like. Check it out and let me know what you think. Overdrive/Distortion Tone Matrix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Marvel627 Posted April 6, 2008 Members Share Posted April 6, 2008 to be completely honest, i really appreciate the effort you put into this, but idk if its because these are going direct through the pod but they definitely sound more "direct" and often woofy to me than they might going through a "real" amp. However, i can hear the variations between the pedals. Thanks, and great job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ToneSlinger Posted April 6, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 6, 2008 thanks for the input. You're input is valid. I wanted to keep everything identical as I could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members myTakamine Posted April 6, 2008 Members Share Posted April 6, 2008 Very cool, I'm glad you put this together. I listened to most (but not all) of the samples, and the FD2 in particular seemed to suffer by comparison just based on volume. If you were going to take a second crack at this, I wouldn't consider it a violation of the intended spirit to play with the Volume to get roughly uniform output levels.Online clip comparisons can be unreliable, but my preference based on your clips -- the Maxon OD820 -- matches my personal experience with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ToneSlinger Posted April 6, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 6, 2008 Very cool, I'm glad you put this together. I listened to most (but not all) of the samples, and the FD2 in particular seemed to suffer by comparison just based on volume. If you were going to take a second crack at this, I wouldn't consider it a violation of the intended spirit to play with the Volume to get roughly uniform output levels. Online clip comparisons can be unreliable, but my preference based on your clips -- the Maxon OD820 -- matches my personal experience with it. I totally get what you are saying about the volume levels. I considered leveling everything out but decided against it. When all the pedals are set EXACTLY the same, THAT is their output. Some are lower than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sunsetcarcrash Posted April 6, 2008 Members Share Posted April 6, 2008 I totally get what you are saying about the volume levels. I considered leveling everything out but decided against it. When all the pedals are set EXACTLY the same, THAT is their output. Some are lower than others.+1I really liked the matrix... very nice job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jorhay1 Posted April 6, 2008 Members Share Posted April 6, 2008 great job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ToneSlinger Posted April 6, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 6, 2008 thanks for all the compliments everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rossowj Posted April 6, 2008 Members Share Posted April 6, 2008 really nice, man i really didnt know the english muffn had that much low end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ToneSlinger Posted April 6, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 6, 2008 really nice, man i really didnt know the english muffn had that much low end Oh I know. The Ibanez TS9DX tries to do that with the TURBO mode but it just gets all splatty. Kinda like a pedal that wants to be fuzzy, but just cant quit make it. As far as the TS9DX pedal, I pretty much stick to the TS9 and TS9plus modes. The turbo mode for me seems worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kyrreca Posted April 6, 2008 Members Share Posted April 6, 2008 Great site! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chris B. Posted April 6, 2008 Members Share Posted April 6, 2008 Interesting. Confirms what my ears tell me, through my equipment. The English Muff'n . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ToneSlinger Posted April 7, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 7, 2008 Interesting. Confirms what my ears tell me, through my equipment. The English Muff'n . out of all of em' the muff'n seems to have the most amount of gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chris B. Posted April 7, 2008 Members Share Posted April 7, 2008 out of all of em' the muff'n seems to have the most amount of gain.It's also very touch sensitve and cleans up well. Playing with the tone knobs gets you a pretty wide range of good usable "English" tones, Vox -> Super Lead -> JCM 800. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MightyThor Posted April 7, 2008 Members Share Posted April 7, 2008 Did you actually play for each sample or did you somehow record the riff clean and play it back through each pedal ? I really can't notice any differences in the riff. Very consistent ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members indigoguy Posted April 7, 2008 Members Share Posted April 7, 2008 Great work, that was really interesting to hear, has just made me want a ts9 more though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoboPimp Posted April 7, 2008 Members Share Posted April 7, 2008 One thing that drives me nuts is searching online at manufacturers and retailers websites to hear tone samples of guitars, amps, and effects only to find that they have gone the extra mile to make their product sound as good as they possibly can.so your solution is to record everything as bad as you possibly can? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ToneSlinger Posted April 7, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 7, 2008 so your solution is to record everything as bad as you possibly can? The goal is to record all the pedals with the same settings so you can see how each pedal reacts at the same settings. It demos where OD kicks in, tone response, etc.I am working on another showcase version of the page that has best mild distortion and heavy distortion with varying settings for each pedal. This is to highlight where the pedal really shines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CS Posted April 7, 2008 Members Share Posted April 7, 2008 The goal is to record all the pedals with the same settings so you can see how each pedal reacts at the same settings. It demos where OD kicks in, tone response, etc.I am working on another showcase version of the page that has best mild distortion and heavy distortion with varying settings for each pedal. This is to highlight where the pedal really shines. Don't waste time or energy on the troll. BTW It's a good idea. I own one of those pedals and it's interesting to hear comparisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ToneSlinger Posted April 7, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 7, 2008 thanks. which one of the pedals do you have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kitarist Posted April 8, 2008 Members Share Posted April 8, 2008 nice :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ToneSlinger Posted April 8, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 8, 2008 yea... i like to breathe.... its kinda addicting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CS Posted April 8, 2008 Members Share Posted April 8, 2008 thanks.which one of the pedals do you have? Fulldrive 2. I know some people dont like PODs (me included) but the sound is close IMHO and therefore the site is again IMHO useful. No substitute for trying one of course. I'd like to see more pedals but that could get expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ToneSlinger Posted April 8, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 8, 2008 Fulldrive 2. I know some people dont like PODs (me included) but the sound is close IMHO and therefore the site is again IMHO useful. No substitute for trying one of course. I'd like to see more pedals but that could get expensive. The fulldrive 2 is by far my favorite OD pedal. Very thick and meaty and the harmonic fullness just seems to be just what I am after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LavaMan Posted April 8, 2008 Members Share Posted April 8, 2008 Nice job! Here's another site w/OD clips:http://harryj.net/OD_Shootout2.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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