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Where do you place booster and volume pedals?


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I am curious as to where people have booster and volume pedals in their chain. Been reading some opinions from people like Pete Cornish in the recent edition of GP magazine. I have a volume pedal that I have first in my chain. He recommends it should be last, so I think I might give that a try and see if there's any difference. I also use a Bad Monkey as a booster/slight overdrive. The order of my pedals is in my sig, but its vol, wah, filter, NS-2 Loop, and first in the loop is the Bad Monkey. My thoughts were to do this to boost any of my dirt/fuzz pedals. I've also thought about getting a dedicated booster pedal like a Boosta Grande, and placing this at the end of my dirt pedal chain. Good idea? Or move the Bad Monkey at the end of the chain?

 

Any thoughts on where/how to place booster and volume pedals?

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I have my vol pedal towards the middle, before delay and mod. Helps w/ volume swells. I have a boost after one of my dirts. But I'm in the process of figuring out which pedals to keep (I have 2 808 clones I made w/ different mods). I guess there's pros and cons to having a pre/post placed boost. I haven't messed around w/ it too much.

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The placement of the volume pedal depends on what you want to do with it. If you purely want if for volume I'd say put it last. If you put it before dirt it will have an effect like the guitar volume, and it will clean up your signal.

Also, as was mentioned before if you like volume swells it should go before any modulation or delay that you use for the swells. I prefer guitar volume knob for this though.

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Placing the volume pedal up front is basically using it instead of your guitar's volume knob, so if you're running it in conjunction with dirt pedals you can control that as well. Putting your volume pedal after a distortion pedal will give you a consistant amount of dirt and change the volume only. It's just another case of whatever works best for you.

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I keep all my modulation pedals in an effects loop.

Another question, where in the order should a fuzz like the Monsterpiece go? I know with older Fuzz Face pedals it needs to be first, but I don't think this is the case with Richard's pedals. I have it towards the end of my dirt chain.

So I might try this order of pedals. Please critique or make suggesitons:

Guitar>Wah pedal>Mini Q-tron>NS-2 (loop): Bad Monkey>TS-9>Screwdriver>Reeza>Monsterpiece>Big Muff>Boosta Grande (or something similar)>NS-2 Loop>Volume pedal w/tuner > Amp.

Effects loop: EQ>Chorus>Phaser>Vibe>Delay (analog if I get one)>Delay (SMMH currently)>amp

Two pedals I am thinking about getting but don't own yet: Pog (probably micro) and a tremolo. Where should they go, in the loop? Also the RC-2, also in the loop, last?

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The tremolo should sit well in the amp's loop, but you should try it in front of your Mini-Q at least once for some fun.
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That sounds like fun! I might get a Micro Q-tron, to replace the Mini. One source told me the Micro actually sounds better with guitar, whereas the Mini is great with bass. Truth? I like the smaller size for sure. The Q-tron is great. Sometimes I think i don't even need a regular wah.

I was reading the article on Tom Morello, and he uses a Crybaby in the effects loop. That sounds pretty wild/weird. Not sure how the effect will work this way. I tried my Soul Vibe in front, but it seems to sound better in the effects loop. I'll move my chorus up a bit and see how that sounds. May replace the Small Clone with a Mind Bender, not sure yet.

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May replace the Small Clone with a Mind Bender, not sure yet.

 

 

If you're thinking of doing that for the vibrato, there's supposed to be a pretty easy mod to add vibrato to the small clone. I think choutmusic did it and posted some clips...sounded pretty cool.

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If you're thinking of doing that for the vibrato, there's supposed to be a pretty easy mod to add vibrato to the small clone. I think choutmusic did it and posted some clips...sounded pretty cool.

 

 

No, more for a different type of chorus, but having the vibrato is kind of a bonus I guess. I'm looking at the Mind Bender or the Carl Martin Classic Chorus (recommended review in GP). How different of an effect is tremolo from vibrato? I'm thinking about the new SD Shape Shifter for tremolo.

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Tremolo changes volume...vibrato changes pitch.

 

 

Got it. Actually I knew the difference, not sure why I asked. I just don't have either pedal at the moment. Tremolo pedals seem a lot more plentiful than vibrato, not including things like octave shifters and such. Vibrato is more of a subtle change when I think of it, in a more traditional sense (such as when I used to play violin, your vibrato would subtley change the pitch of the note.) Same applies to vibrato when you play guitar or use the whammy bar, although clearly it doesn't have to be very subtle. Not sure I'm making any sense here...

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