Members Inertiatic_SKS Posted April 17, 2008 Members Share Posted April 17, 2008 I've seen a lot of big names using them, but they just looks like glorified multi-FX boards to me... Does he do anything special or are guys just paying thousands upon thousands of dollars to have their pedals re-housed into the board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrweems Posted April 17, 2008 Members Share Posted April 17, 2008 :corksniffer:$$$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NITEFLY182 Posted April 17, 2008 Members Share Posted April 17, 2008 I've seen a lot of big names using them, but they just looks like glorified multi-FX boards to me...Does he do anything special or are guys just paying thousands upon thousands of dollars to have their pedals re-housed into the board? Theyre meant for taking your pedals and making them as bulletproof as possible with new input and output buffers to optimize them to work well with each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Destructobot Posted April 17, 2008 Members Share Posted April 17, 2008 I think they're for people that are looking for ways to spend the annoying piles of cash they have lying around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bowlingshirt Posted April 17, 2008 Members Share Posted April 17, 2008 are guys just paying thousands upon thousands of dollars to have their pedals re-housed into the board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Inertiatic_SKS Posted April 17, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 17, 2008 Theyre meant for taking your pedals and making them as bulletproof as possible with new input and output buffers to optimize them to work well with each other. That seems like a job about anyone could do, minus the re-housing part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NITEFLY182 Posted April 17, 2008 Members Share Posted April 17, 2008 That seems like a job about anyone could do, minus the re-housing part. Sweet. Hop to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members weakflesh Posted April 17, 2008 Members Share Posted April 17, 2008 That seems like a job about anyone could do, minus the re-housing part. well sorta, they are for touring pros, and have top notch engineering done to them, where needed, totally custom, totally bullet proof, totally not for doofuses like me, and no offense probably not for anyone who reads this board. They also pre-date, as a design type all the stuff you can easily buy now... also, my point of view is that people who use stuff like that to go to the blues jam down the street are definately corksniffers, or douchenozzles which ever fits better. jefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members english_bob Posted April 17, 2008 Members Share Posted April 17, 2008 Essentially, you pay for: Really, really heavy duty construction Pete Cornish's proprietary buffer circuits- no tone or signal loss between pedals, no external connections to go bad. Power filtering- no noise regardless of how dodgy the mains supply may be in the venue you're in. Not such a hassle in the clubs and bars of Midtown, USA, but potentially a problem on the wilder portions of your world tour. I believe the transformers are also set up to be able to operate at any voltage- 110v for the US, 230v for Europe, ??? for Wackistan or wherever... Pete Cornish's personal guarantee that it absolutely will not break. Ever. Could anybody do it? Sure, but you'd need a fair amount of electronic know-how and good deal of time and money. Is it worth it? For the average joe musician probably not. For Sting or Paul McCartney or Dave Gilmour who have money to spare and very little margin for stuff breaking down at very large and expensive (to stage as well as to attend) shows? "Er, sorry Madison Square Gardens. One of the patch cables between my effects pedals has broken. One of my roadies is trying to work out which one while another guy is going to get another one. He thinks there's a crappy free one from Guitar Center down the back of the seat in the tour jet. Can we say... oh, ten minutes, then I'll do "Hey Jude"... thanks." I reckon so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dangerous dan Posted April 17, 2008 Members Share Posted April 17, 2008 Essentially, you pay for:Pete Cornish's personal guarantee that it absolutely will not break. Ever. Pete Cornish vs 'mean time to failure'......... I wonder if I'm a big time touring pro and the board breaks do I get to take his home off him ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phyrexia Posted April 17, 2008 Members Share Posted April 17, 2008 Could anybody do it? Sure, but you'd need a fair amount of electronic know-how and good deal of time and money. Is it worth it? For the average joe musician probably not. For Sting or Paul McCartney or Dave Gilmour who have money to spare and very little margin for stuff breaking down at very large and expensive (to stage as well as to attend) shows? "Er, sorry Madison Square Gardens. One of the patch cables between my effects pedals has broken. One of my roadies is trying to work out which one while another guy is going to get another one. He thinks there's a crappy free one from Guitar Center down the back of the seat in the tour jet. Can we say... oh, ten minutes, then I'll do "Hey Jude"... thanks."I reckon so. I doubt anybody playing MSG plays without a backup (and probably a backup backup). If you can afford rehousing, you can afford backup equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SUPER VELCROBOY Posted April 17, 2008 Members Share Posted April 17, 2008 the cornish stuff is put together like a tank and this is what you need to tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Inertiatic_SKS Posted April 17, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 17, 2008 I personally couldn't justify spending that much money on a board I can change. I'd be just fine with a Pedaltrain PT Pro, power supply and good patch cables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members billboneys Posted April 17, 2008 Members Share Posted April 17, 2008 May 2008 Guitar Player Magazine "The Ultimate Guide to Pedalboard" has some info on this guy and his boards. Haven't read it yet though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gappie Posted April 17, 2008 Members Share Posted April 17, 2008 i guess his site speaks for it self. that is not for people who want to tear of a pedal to change it for an other one. impressive client list.http://www.petecornish.co.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheGareth Posted April 17, 2008 Members Share Posted April 17, 2008 The boards do look great, don't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members billboneys Posted April 17, 2008 Members Share Posted April 17, 2008 Pete's opinon on true bypass.http://www.petecornish.co.uk/case_against_true_bypass.htmlMakes sense I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Northstar Posted April 17, 2008 Members Share Posted April 17, 2008 The boards do look great, don't they? I love'em! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members english_bob Posted April 18, 2008 Members Share Posted April 18, 2008 Pete Cornish vs 'mean time to failure'......... I wonder if I'm a big time touring pro and the board breaks do I get to take his home off him ? No, but you get to say that you spent a {censored}load of money on one of his world renowned ultra-reliable systems and it let you down. Word gets around, suddenly, the rock dinosaurs stop calling and THEN Pete Cornish loses his home. As with most of the stuff that we obsess over at HCFX, it's a luxury product so OF COURSE it's not worth the sum of its parts plus a reasonable hourly rate for labour. The difference between a Cornish system and a Keeley compressor is that we can't afford the Cornish stuff and it's designed with all sorts of features we don't need or necessarily understand the value of because, to generalise, we don't play arena rock shows with household names (with a couple of exceptions, no doubt). There's no doubt a lot of mystique around Cornish stuff, and credibility by association with the people who use it, but that's equally true of any other boutique manufacturer, or Fender or Gibson for that matter, which is why I find the regular-as-clockwork Cornish-bashing threads pretty funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HeartfeltDawn Posted April 18, 2008 Members Share Posted April 18, 2008 There's no doubt a lot of mystique around Cornish stuff, and credibility by association with the people who use it, but that's equally true of any other boutique manufacturer, or Fender or Gibson for that matter, which is why I find the regular-as-clockwork Cornish-bashing threads pretty funny. It's also probably fair to say that very few people on these boards have used Cornish's stuff compared to most other boutique manufacturers. Therefore the 'bash Cornish' threads aren't often coming from personal experience of his work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members english_bob Posted April 18, 2008 Members Share Posted April 18, 2008 True. I just had a look around his website, and his individual pedals are insanely priced. My ZIM was about as expensive an effect as I was ever planning to buy, and I could have bought two for the price of one of his SS-3s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HeartfeltDawn Posted April 18, 2008 Members Share Posted April 18, 2008 Easy way to silence the Cornish bashers: just tell them that he designed an effects routing unit for Kevin Shields in 1992. All the Cornish bashers will fall to their knees and starting worshipping the great God Shields. Even if I have the cash, I'd think twice abotu going to a man associated with Sting. Can't stand Sting, me. Many years ago I met his wife on their estate as I was doing some routine cattle checks. Just one of my more interesting jobs. I freely admit when I met her that I started giggling because the words 'tantric sex' went through my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members english_bob Posted April 18, 2008 Members Share Posted April 18, 2008 Easy way to silence the Cornish bashers: just tell them that he designed an effects routing unit for Kevin Shields in 1992. All the Cornish bashers will fall to their knees and starting worshipping the great God Shields. lol My in-laws used to live near Sting in Grasmere. Sadly, they don't have his money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members T3 Posted April 18, 2008 Members Share Posted April 18, 2008 one thing to say about his client list - not all those people have pedal boards, some will have bought his stand-alone effects... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members english_bob Posted April 18, 2008 Members Share Posted April 18, 2008 one thing to say about his client list - not all those people have pedal boards, some will have bought his stand-alone effects... It generally says on the client list what they bought. Some people are obviously bigger spenders and definite Cornish "converts" (Pink Floyd, Paul McCartney, Brian May, Sting, Iron Maiden) but yes, a lot of them have bought the "cheaper" stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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