Members StratoSlacker Posted April 29, 2008 Members Share Posted April 29, 2008 Please base your votes on what I've written below, not just which one you prefer. Thanks! There is no "other" as I'm getting a pretty good deal (I think) on one of these. I have a chance to buy one of these (not both sadly) for about $100 used. I've heard real good things about the J&H and not much specifically on the DM4. I do have a Line 6 MM4 which is OK at best. My reason for considering the DM4 is that it will let me approximate a variety of distortions/ODs and once I find one I really like, I can go out and get the real pedal. Is this a wise approach or will I be mislead? I'd be playing several fenders and a Les Paul through a Deluxe Reverb. Mostly classic rock and blues type stuff. I occasionally go heavier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CiceroTJones Posted April 29, 2008 Members Share Posted April 29, 2008 Go Jekyll & Hyde.Better sounds. You'd be disappointed with the DM4, even though there are many options.The J&H can be that TS kind of sound, the heavier sound, and then you can stack them, which would give you 3 different sounds... you'd only get one more on the DM4, and the J&H sounds better. Go J&H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lanefair Posted April 29, 2008 Members Share Posted April 29, 2008 I owned a Jekyll and Hyde for a bit and only sold it for the money. It's got plenty of tonal options there. And it will sound a hell of a lot better than a line6 product, and that's coming from someone that likes line6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jeremy Skrenes Posted April 29, 2008 Members Share Posted April 29, 2008 I'll have to disagree, and this is coming from a JH owner. Great pedal, good deal for $100, BUT if you are in the market for a delay, you probably won't find another $100 DM4 for a while. It's not uncommon to dig up $100 JH pedals, especially if you don't mind the older versions. So I think the DM4 is a better deal, but you might not need a delay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StratoSlacker Posted April 29, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 29, 2008 Just to clarify, I believe the DM4 is the distortion modeler and the DL4 is the delay. I'm looking at the Distortion Modeler, not the delay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NetStar Posted April 29, 2008 Members Share Posted April 29, 2008 Line 6 DM-4 Line 6 DL-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CiceroTJones Posted April 29, 2008 Members Share Posted April 29, 2008 I'll have to disagree, and this is coming from a JH owner. Great pedal, good deal for $100, BUT if you are in the market for a delay, you probably won't find another $100 DM4 for a while. It's not uncommon to dig up $100 JH pedals, especially if you don't mind the older versions. So I think the DM4 is a better deal, but you might not need a delay. And the crowd goes wild!!!! :poke::bor::bor::bor: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StratoSlacker Posted April 29, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 29, 2008 is there a difference between "older" J&H's and "new ones"?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bennintexas Posted April 29, 2008 Members Share Posted April 29, 2008 i dont think most people have actually used a dm4. ive owned one, and its a really underrated pedal. if you want alot of versatility id say go for the dm4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ThreeGutRock Posted April 29, 2008 Members Share Posted April 29, 2008 I use the JH as my main OD/Disortion and {censored}ing love it. It's really, really versatile and has lots of sounds in it. Between the bass boost switch and the sharp/blunt switch, plus the really usable tone controls, it's great. I play an SG through a DRRI and it's great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members panther_king Posted April 29, 2008 Members Share Posted April 29, 2008 New ones (red, V2, with the "less sharp" casing, and splatter graphic) have a noise gate (adjustable level, with on/off switch) and a more widely adjustable bass boost, both accessible internally. You have the open the pedal up to do it, but Visual Sound has installed the knobs in there for personal tweaking if you want to. The v2, in addition to the better noise reduction, also has jack inputs placed lower in the sides of the chassis that the V1 (silver, and red). Makes it alot easier to stick on a pedal board imo. The V1 silver lacks the bass boost on the Jekyll side, and the noise gate. Still has great sound, pretty much the same as the next 2 units; they just kinda improved on simple design features overall. The V1 red adds the bass boost curcuit; I find the bass boost to be a nice compliment to the classically mid-humpy () ts-808 circuit they have in the jekyll side, if you decide to play it with the tone knob dialed up. Roll back the tone knob though, and it's still the 808, minus the mids boost. Anyways, I like my J&H V2. I use the Jekyll side as a boost (gain down, tone 1 :00, volume to taste) usually, and the Hyde side as gain in front of the amp; either into it clean, or as an OD. Here's the V1, silver, notice the jack inputs: And the new V2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jeremy Skrenes Posted April 29, 2008 Members Share Posted April 29, 2008 Now I feel stupid. Got a letter mixed up on that DL4 vs DM4. I can't find a blushing smiley face, so I will quote Comic Book Guy: "there is no emoticon to describe how I'm feeling!" So let me rephrase. Get a Jekyll & Hyde. Good pedal, good sounds, durable, and Bob Weil is one of the nicest guys to deal with (he's the owner of Visual Sound) for custmoer support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members houseofglass21 Posted April 29, 2008 Members Share Posted April 29, 2008 The Jekyll side is a good TS clone, but I hated the Hyde side on my friends J&H. I found it really harsh and ugly sounding. Trebly, fizzy, and boomy...you could do better for a distortion pedal. I'd go with the DM-4, I had one and it's pretty good (and cheap), the Edge uses it so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ThreeGutRock Posted April 30, 2008 Members Share Posted April 30, 2008 The Hyde side on sharp is really...sharp, so I rarely use it. But on blunt I really dig it. It reminds me of a heavy southern rock lead tone. And when you crank the gain all the way it it will make these weird but awesome oscillating noises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mdsmithii Posted April 30, 2008 Members Share Posted April 30, 2008 J&H is what your looking for, quality tone and great diversity. i think you will find that is what you are looking for above the mm4. Just my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Belt Posted April 30, 2008 Members Share Posted April 30, 2008 J&H is what your looking for, quality tone and great diversity. i think you will find that is what you are looking for above the mm4. Just my opinion This sounds about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members p90teleman Posted April 30, 2008 Members Share Posted April 30, 2008 I'd say go J&H - it's analog. I admit I never tried the Line6. a KILLER TS + a dist that can be set as a gritty boost a la BD-2(but better/Rat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stratstallion Posted April 30, 2008 Members Share Posted April 30, 2008 The Jeckyll & Hyde is a good all around analog distortion/overdrive pedal. I think the TS side is better than most TS's, and a lot more versatile with the bass boost and more available gain. The Hyde side is a heavy distortion that I found difficult to tame, but was able to get some pretty good tones out of. I since replaced it with the WamplerPedals Plextortion and a Barber LTD, both of which, IMHO, sound a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StratoSlacker Posted April 30, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 30, 2008 Thanks everyone for your input. Just another great thing about Harmony Central, smart people who really know their gear. I'm going for the older J&H, found a used one on HC that was even cheaper than the one I found on Craigslist. I may try and swing the Line6 pedal too just to have something to play with (but I also just found a used RC-20XL at a steal). Decisions decisions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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