Members valvestate Posted May 7, 2008 Members Share Posted May 7, 2008 Have you had an experienced with a fellow guitarist in your band that plugs his guitar in his amp and just control the volume but never spend time tweaking the EQ controls? Or somebody that plugs to a distortion (or any pedal) and MAX the gain/ dist knob and be done with it? Having dilemma with my band members who are like this.. I don't want to offend them saying that their sound sucks though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members melx Posted May 7, 2008 Members Share Posted May 7, 2008 No but I've had the opposite problem where a guitarist wastes 30min of our (paid for) rehersal room time {censored}ing about with knobs to get the tone just right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Headlow Posted May 7, 2008 Members Share Posted May 7, 2008 No, but a few years ago myself and a drummer buddy of mine jammed with a fella of about 50 who worked with us. I played bass, and the guy un plugged my pedals, plugged my Epi LP into a {censored}ty Marshal 30 watt amp and got some amazing sounds. Even with pedals I couldn't get anywhere close. I learnt a lot that night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vince Posted May 7, 2008 Members Share Posted May 7, 2008 No, but a few years ago myself and a drummer buddy of mine jammed with a fella of about 50 who worked with us. I played bass, and the guy un plugged my pedals, plugged my Epi LP into a {censored}ty Marshal 30 watt amp and got some amazing sounds. Even with pedals I couldn't get anywhere close. I learnt a lot that night. I hate it when people do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoboPimp Posted May 7, 2008 Members Share Posted May 7, 2008 a good guitarist can plug and play and have killer tone, if you suck you can tweak all night and still have {censored}ty tone. Really has nothing to do with how long you spend "tweaking" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tommyld Posted May 7, 2008 Members Share Posted May 7, 2008 I don't think there's anything wrong with a plug and play guitarist...someone who plugs straight into an amp, or plugs into one setting and just plays. Sure, they've got to be really good. Typically, you don't want to play every song with the same exact tone...but if they vary their picking, pickup selectors, guitar knobs. It can be done!! However, the texture you can bring to your tone with some pedals (micro pog, smmh, for me) cannot be duplicated in any other way. Sometimes pedals can make your tone more interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pasteface Posted May 7, 2008 Members Share Posted May 7, 2008 hahaha i come here looking to see what new pedals are out maybe I want to buy one and I see this posting Never mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Belt Posted May 7, 2008 Members Share Posted May 7, 2008 My settings don't change much. I fiddle with the 808's gain. But that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Belt Posted May 7, 2008 Members Share Posted May 7, 2008 Oh the SMMH requires mah hands too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members veil Posted May 7, 2008 Members Share Posted May 7, 2008 a good guitarist can plug and play and have killer tone, if you suck you can tweak all night and still have {censored}ty tone. Really has nothing to do with how long you spend "tweaking" Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rileykill Posted May 7, 2008 Members Share Posted May 7, 2008 a good guitarist can plug and play and have killer tone, if you suck you can tweak all night and still have {censored}ty tone. Really has nothing to do with how long you spend "tweaking" Couldn't agree more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members veil Posted May 7, 2008 Members Share Posted May 7, 2008 a good guitarist can plug and play and have killer tone, if you suck you can tweak all night and still have {censored}ty tone. Really has nothing to do with how long you spend "tweaking" Corollary: the less time I spend tweaking and the more time I spend playing, the more fun I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Agreed Posted May 7, 2008 Members Share Posted May 7, 2008 When I bring an amp home I might sit down for half an hour and {censored} with it to see how everything affects the sound. After that, though, I just plug and play. I used to use one big pedal chain and try to fit it to all my amps. That didn't work out so well. Now, I use smaller individual pedal chains, with the pedals configured specifically for that amp. Cuts down enormously on tweaking, preserves signal fidelity, sounds much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Welladjusted Posted May 7, 2008 Members Share Posted May 7, 2008 I think I just find the pedal's sweet spot and call it a day after that. I was tweaking my amp almost daily, but I think I found my favourite Rat setting within about an hour of owning it. I understand the impulse to be a "plug and play" guitarist. I'd love to find a rig I can do that with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tommyld Posted May 7, 2008 Members Share Posted May 7, 2008 My amp, I pretty much set and forget. Most pedals, I try to set and forget. The SMMH requires turning of the Hazarai knob, but other than that, I keep things saved as presets. The Micro POG I use for bass, textured/layered distortion, or organ, so I do adjust that one... but that's just three different settings I can dial in real quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FuzzShifter Posted May 7, 2008 Members Share Posted May 7, 2008 That's why I like pedals with treadles. Tweak and play..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Terminus Posted May 7, 2008 Members Share Posted May 7, 2008 I have a lot of friends who never cared to fiddle with their gear, but even though I'm quite a beginner I've geeked away and gather some knowledge of finding a good tone, so several times I've helped both guitarists and bassists to improve their tone a lot, even though they are far greater players than me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jules-RM Posted May 7, 2008 Members Share Posted May 7, 2008 Try having a guitarist that always fiddles with the EQ controls - like bass all the way up, mids all the way down and highs down to 10 o'clock, and he plays a humbucker on my 50w combo. Sounds like utter caca. I keep fixing the EQ so it sounds good, then he turns around and smegs it up. If he were a dog I'd take him around the back of the barn and blow him away for eating my chickens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members opultaM Posted May 7, 2008 Members Share Posted May 7, 2008 Last night i intentionally showed up to rehearsal early so i could mess around with settings on various stuff. The 2 drummers in there started talking about equipment and told me to stop playing because they couldn't hear eachother talk. I just kind of looked at them. Talk outside. This is where we make noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 89strat Posted May 7, 2008 Members Share Posted May 7, 2008 If the other guitarist sounds like crap then the band sounds like crap which means you'll sound like crap. Absolutely let him know! I've had the same problem with another guitar player, and had him over my house with another guitarist where we brought all our gear so he can try out different things before settling on his new setup. Now he gets compliments on his tone, and we both sound better in the mix. Make a recording of youselves and play back to your band and let them know how they can sound better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members the Dust Posted May 7, 2008 Members Share Posted May 7, 2008 Last night i intentionally showed up to rehearsal early so i could mess around with settings on various stuff. The 2 drummers in there started talking about equipment and told me to stop playing because they couldn't hear eachother talk. I just kind of looked at them. Talk outside. This is where we make noise. kick their drum-ass away from ya... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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