Members RML43 Posted November 17, 2007 Members Share Posted November 17, 2007 Has anyone compared the p08 to the pek - just the analog side - curious what - if any sound differences there are between the analog side of each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Teoman Posted November 17, 2007 Members Share Posted November 17, 2007 Has anyone compared the p08 to the pek - just the analog side - curious what - if any sound differences there are between the analog side of each. P08 sounds more raw and dry as it should be. Both are warm and similar in basic tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cran Leavis Posted November 17, 2007 Members Share Posted November 17, 2007 Several P8 owners here have suggested a more rounded dimension to the sound that goes nearer the prophet five end, and that's what all the demos I've heard suggest too : http://www.trippler.net/files/p8/p8l.mp3http://www.trippler.net/files/p8/p8e.mp3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cran Leavis Posted November 21, 2007 Members Share Posted November 21, 2007 any one else had the chance to try one out over the last few weeks ? I'm stuck in a synth wasteland until christmas, so interested to hear.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MuzikB Posted November 21, 2007 Members Share Posted November 21, 2007 any one else had the chance to try one out over the last few weeks ? I'm in stuck in a synth wasteland until christmas, so interested to hear.... After you get one, be sure to have a unit or plug-in with multi-mode filters handy. Does wonders. Being that it doesn't have FX or a multimode filter, don't look at it as an end all type of piece. Better thought of as a great studio addition that's going to need some accessories to personalize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cran Leavis Posted November 21, 2007 Members Share Posted November 21, 2007 After you get one, be sure to have a unit or plug-in with multi-mode filters handy sounds a nice idea for adding even more, muzik, which almost reminds me of the flash of ideas replacing my d-50 with a jd-800 once helped along I'm not short of a couple of digital synths, processors or a vintage mono or two at the moment though, so I'm definitely planning on the PO8 as a fresh character-helper rather than an end-all..;./) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MuzikB Posted November 21, 2007 Members Share Posted November 21, 2007 I actually have an acquaintance bitching about it because it has no FX and costs $2500. I told him, you don't look at something like this and not have some outboard handy. He's the kind of person that just needs a Motif XS6, Live 7, and Peak. NOTHING MORE because you just won't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cran Leavis Posted November 21, 2007 Members Share Posted November 21, 2007 I actually have an acquaintance bitching about it because it has no FX and costs $2500 I'm actually pretty pleased it doesn't have the kind of contrasting digi add-on FX I don't think did the Andromeda any favours.../-. and compared to what new polysynth keyboards used to go for , that price is pretty damn good .;.):poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MuzikB Posted November 21, 2007 Members Share Posted November 21, 2007 I'm actually pretty pleased it doesn't have the kind of contrasting digi add-on FX I don't think did the Andromeda any favours.../-. and compared to what new polysynth keyboards used to go for , that price is pretty damn good .;.):poke: He doesn't think that way. He's more of an expression through composition type than expression through sound type. All he needs are straight production tools and right now Yamaha has that crown IMO. VA's, RA's, and softsynths would be largely wasted on him. We butt heads because of the contrasting differences but he'd be a great teammate if we could get past the personal side and focus on music and ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cran Leavis Posted November 21, 2007 Members Share Posted November 21, 2007 I can understand that way of thinking too, and I've always liked the yamaha romplers ; sounds like a great productive match of opposites to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Orren Posted November 21, 2007 Members Share Posted November 21, 2007 any one else had the chance to try one out over the last few weeks ? I'm stuck in a synth wasteland until christmas, so interested to hear....My Prophet '08 arrived two days ago. Admittedly, I'm still in the honeymoon period, but I'm really blown away by what it can sound like. Given all the stacking/unison options, it can sound HUGE, but it can also sound intimate. It can sound very polite, but then with noise and modulation it can sound crazy insane harsh. And of course the arp and sequencer are just excellent, but I love those in my Poly Evo too. Also, the build quality is solid (which I was very happy about, my MEK's PCB board feels like it's loose in the case...).Orren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mintbeetle Posted November 21, 2007 Members Share Posted November 21, 2007 I like the idea of synths with no effects too. If you record with effects you're stuck with them forever, but you can always go back and mess with a dry signal. Plus the effects are usually not that good. Exspecially workstation reverb. Better algorithms can be had for free, or close to it, in the VST world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cran Leavis Posted November 22, 2007 Members Share Posted November 22, 2007 just the kind of mixture of size, portability and character I'm envisaging for it to take in my setup from the demos - good to hear, Orren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members voispectra Posted November 23, 2007 Members Share Posted November 23, 2007 Hi guys, here is another P8 demo. I produced it by exclusively using my Prophet 08 programs (except for the drums). http://www.voispectra.com/html/Analogic.mp3 CheersKursat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CTB Posted November 23, 2007 Members Share Posted November 23, 2007 Nice demo, Kursat. Were some of those patches using the step sequencer as a mod source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members voispectra Posted November 24, 2007 Members Share Posted November 24, 2007 Nice demo, Kursat. Were some of those patches using the step sequencer as a mod source?Thanks CTB. It's true that some of the patches feature gate sequencer which was used as a modulator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Orren Posted November 26, 2007 Members Share Posted November 26, 2007 I like the idea of synths with no effects too....Plus the effects are usually not that good. Along those lines, I remember a French keyboard magazine had some video of interview sessions with Dave Smith in which he showed the prototype Prophet '08, just PCBs and a keybed on a table. He mentioned that the prototype on the table had some bucket brigade analog delay chips as he was considering adding analog delay to the unit, but after testing it out, he felt the delay chips sounded bad. Honestly, unison mode is so thick, and you can get crazy modulations going, so I don't really miss any sort of chorus effect; between the delays on the filter, VCA, LFO, and using the step sequencer you can get a really good delay going; It's too bad there's no distortion, but you can get things pretty dirty when you play with noise, audio mod, and resonance. Other than using effects as crazy mod options or including a fully-featured digital multi-effects unit inside, I personally don't feel that too much could be gained by adding effects. Orren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cran Leavis Posted December 2, 2007 Members Share Posted December 2, 2007 re its unison mode, there were various suggestions on another forum of late that the PO8's unison mode sounds more 'atypically DCO unison' , and closer to 'typical analogue unison' ; looking forward to hearing how far this might work when I finally have a chance to demo the thing. I'm planning to order one from Modularsquare, but do any other posters from the UK know if Turnkey definitely has one permanently on demo ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ob Com Posted December 2, 2007 Members Share Posted December 2, 2007 Yep- Turnkey have one on demo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cran Leavis Posted December 2, 2007 Members Share Posted December 2, 2007 thanks Obc ; will have to get myself down there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ob Com Posted December 2, 2007 Members Share Posted December 2, 2007 NP- they have an LP too, which is FANTASTIC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bartrom Posted December 4, 2007 Members Share Posted December 4, 2007 You were saying.....?? I just noticed in the manual that the '08 receives P-AT! Does it respond as expected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cran Leavis Posted December 4, 2007 Members Share Posted December 4, 2007 cheers Obc, although my micromoog is filling that job at the moment.../> Interesting that the PO8 responds to midi poly AT ; hadn't noticed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Purity_Control Posted December 7, 2007 Members Share Posted December 7, 2007 Just gave the p08 a spin in Turdkey, at least, after the sales assistant spent about 15 minutes trying to get it to make a sound, then had to get a techy out to do some sort of weird super reset on it... no idea what was going on there, think someone had been dicking with it in a way that the usual off/on wouldn't sort out.it's certainly got a sound of it's own, not so much like the P600 to play, or the Opera 6 (i can't comment on the P5 as i've never owned one), quite surprisingly aggressive, poss. a little clean for my taste... the 'Purity Control' patch (thanks Carbon) actually reminded me rather of a particular kind of sound i used to get out of my wavestation (in a good way).cosmetically, a very sexy looking synth to behold... though i have to admit the knob wobble is just a teeny bit worrying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Orren Posted December 7, 2007 Members Share Posted December 7, 2007 I'm still in the honeymoon phase, so with that in mind, I thought to address a couple of points. quite surprisingly aggressive, poss. a little clean for my taste...It may just be your word choice, but those two comments seem a little contradictory to me. To my vocabulary, "clean" means "lacking edge" and aggressive means "edgy." Not to doubt your observations, of course, I'm just trying to determine what you were trying to say. Did you perhaps mean "surprisingly edgy but in a non-distorted kind of way?"One of the things I love about this synth is how the same patch, when you start playing with the A/B stacking and unison mode, can go from sounding tame to larger than life. So I've found that if you take one of those "slightly edgy but still polite" sounds and start playing with stacking and unison, it can definitely sound HUGE, gritty and mean, even if it's not "distorted" in the tube screamer overdrive sense. And this is without programming it at all, this is all just playing around with a few buttons on the interface. cosmetically, a very sexy looking synth to behold... though i have to admit the knob wobble is just a teeny bit worrying You know, I wonder if the store demo model had been futzed with in a non-double-plus-good way. The hard reset and the wobbly knobs seem to indicate that something isn't quite right with that one. On my P08, if I put my fingers at the base of a knob, rock it back and forth with minimal pressure, the knobs don't wobble. Now, if I start to push them from side to side, they sure will. But in normal use of twiddling and twisting, they seem stable.Orren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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