Members RoboPimp Posted August 13, 2008 Members Share Posted August 13, 2008 Runner's knee is an injury (a muscle/fascia inflammation vs. degenerative changes in bone). Yes if you overtrain, run in bad shoes, etc, etc. of course you can injure yourself. But if you lay off and allow yourself to heal and then learn from the experience ... you will not have arthritis/knee replacement later in life due to runner's knee. if you smoke cigarettes you might not get lung cancer either. most of the people I know who run have had foot, knee, hip problems...sure you might find internet studies that say it doesn't happen but it's common sense really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kismet78 Posted August 13, 2008 Members Share Posted August 13, 2008 Soy is for the womenz. Just saying, protect your nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LowWoods Posted August 13, 2008 Members Share Posted August 13, 2008 Soy is for the womenz. Just saying, protect your nuts.Doesn't it promote estrogen? I used to eat soy energy bars. It didn't make me feel so good I think soy might be commonly genetically altered or somethin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kismet78 Posted August 13, 2008 Members Share Posted August 13, 2008 Doesn't it promote estrogen? I used to eat soy energy bars. It didn't make me feel so good I think soy might be commonly genetically altered or somethin' Phytoestrogens, specifically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rileykill Posted August 13, 2008 Members Share Posted August 13, 2008 if you smoke cigarettes you might not get lung cancer either. most of the people I know who run have had foot, knee, hip problems... sure you might find internet studies that say it doesn't happen but it's common sense really. I didn't say runners never get injured. Good runners that are in it for the long haul almost always have good/corrected form and don't overtrain. If they get injured they seek appropriate treatment and give themselves time to heal. They don't end up with arthritis and joint replacements. I know plenty of runners in their 60's who can still do 30 miles per week and have never had chronic knee/foot/hip problems. Are these people you know lifelong runners? How old are they? How do they train? Do they have good form? I'm willing to bet I know a few more runners than you.Sorry dude ... this is a myth that is accepted by the general public because it "makes sense." It isn't now nor has it ever been proven to be the case and all the research points to exactly the opposite. Your body/joints compensate, and in fact become stronger, due to running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kismet78 Posted August 13, 2008 Members Share Posted August 13, 2008 I didn't say runners never get injured. Good runners that are in it for the long haul almost always have good/corrected form and don't overtrain. If they get injured they seek appropriate treatment and give themselves time to heal. They don't end up with arthritis and joint replacements. I know plenty of runners in their 60's who can still do 30 miles per week and have never had chronic knee/foot/hip problems. Are these people you know lifelong runners? How old are they? How do they train? Do they have good form? I'm willing to bet I know a few more runners than you.Sorry dude ... this is a myth that is accepted by the general public because it "makes sense." It isn't now nor has it ever been proven to be the case and all the research points to exactly the opposite. Your body/joints compensate, and in fact become stronger, due to running. Just like how noobs in the gym are afraid of doing squats/deadlifts because it might hurt their back, when in reality there is nothing better for strengthening your back and preventing injury. Only doing it wrong is going to hurt you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoboPimp Posted August 13, 2008 Members Share Posted August 13, 2008 I didn't say runners never get injured. right, so if you've been running all your life, had training on how to run, proper technique and all that you might be fine but it's a LOT easier for someone to decide they want to lose weight, start running and ruin their knees. Hence the reason why I wouldn't suggest it to anyone just looking to lose weight such as the OP. Many better, less dangerous ways to go about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Argali Posted August 13, 2008 Members Share Posted August 13, 2008 right, so if you've been running all your life, had training on how to run, proper technique and all that you might be fine but it's a LOT easier for someone to decide they want to lose weight, start running and ruin their knees. Hence the reason why I wouldn't suggest it to anyone just looking to lose weight such as the OP. Many better, less dangerous ways to go about it. Christ, if you're that worried about the impact on your knees or other possible injuries, hop on an elliptical machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kismet78 Posted August 13, 2008 Members Share Posted August 13, 2008 90% kitchen / 10% exercise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rileykill Posted August 13, 2008 Members Share Posted August 13, 2008 right, so if you've been running all your life, had training on how to run, proper technique and all that you might be fine but it's a LOT easier for someone to decide they want to lose weight, start running and ruin their knees. Hence the reason why I wouldn't suggest it to anyone just looking to lose weight such as the OP. Many better, less dangerous ways to go about it. Dude, you're cool w/ me and I don't mind the debate but I don't think you should discourage people from taking up exercise in any form. These comments you are making just simply aren't true. It's really easy to get into running without injuring yourself. All you need to do is get your gait analyzed and buy some proper shoes. One hour of prep and $100, max. If anything, fatigue and soreness from running prevent chronic injury by discouraging overuse. Runners (even new ones) are not more prone to injury than other atheletes. You can just as easily be injured by biking, lifting, skating, playing soccer, etc. etc. etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dsquared Posted August 13, 2008 Members Share Posted August 13, 2008 I'm probably in worse shape than most anyone here: 5'10", 250lbs. The last few months, I've been trying to develop better eating habits: less crap, no late night eating, water instead of pop... thet kind of stuff. While it is a good start to the plan, it's like sandbagging your house against a flood: Less water gets into your yard, but the water that's already there doesn't magically disappear. At the end of July, I finally broke down and committed to hitting the weight/fitness room at the local rec center every day in August. Every day, no exceptions, no excuses. Haven't missed one yet, and I'm not going to. I'm staying away from the scale for the time being. So if you want to do it, get out and do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dap99 Posted August 13, 2008 Members Share Posted August 13, 2008 I'm probably in worse shape than most anyone here: 5'10", 250lbs. The last few months, I've been trying to develop better eating habits: less crap, no late night eating, water instead of pop... thet kind of stuff. While it is a good start to the plan, it's like sandbagging your house against a flood: Less water gets into your yard, but the water that's already there doesn't magically disappear.At the end of July, I finally broke down and committed to hitting the weight/fitness room at the local rec center every day in August. Every day, no exceptions, no excuses. Haven't missed one yet, and I'm not going to. I'm staying away from the scale for the time being.So if you want to do it, get out and do it. Uh huh, huh, you called soda, "pop". You're either from Western NY or Wisconsin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dsquared Posted August 13, 2008 Members Share Posted August 13, 2008 Uh huh, huh, you called soda, "pop". You're either from Western NY or Wisconsin.Other side of the country. And a different country.Ca-Na-Duh. And whatever you call it, I'm still trying to keep from drinking it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dap99 Posted August 13, 2008 Members Share Posted August 13, 2008 Other side of the country. And a different country. Ca-Na-Duh. And whatever you call it, I'm still trying to keep from drinking it. I didn't know you canucks called it that, lol. But good for you man! Everyday at the gym... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dsquared Posted August 13, 2008 Members Share Posted August 13, 2008 I didn't know you canucks called it that, lol. But good for you man! Everyday at the gym... Thanks dap99! I'm definitely feeling and doing better every time I go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members papa taco Posted August 13, 2008 Members Share Posted August 13, 2008 Just popping in to say HELLO!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OldCrankyDouche Posted August 13, 2008 Members Share Posted August 13, 2008 .................................. LOL. DICK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tribute2Johnny Posted August 13, 2008 Members Share Posted August 13, 2008 ohh SNAP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LionHeaRT07 Posted August 13, 2008 Members Share Posted August 13, 2008 in before the tears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members murch33 Posted August 13, 2008 Members Share Posted August 13, 2008 in before the tearsYou just made it... Tears of laughter here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LionHeaRT07 Posted August 13, 2008 Members Share Posted August 13, 2008 You just made it... Tears of laughter here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OldCrankyDouche Posted August 13, 2008 Members Share Posted August 13, 2008 You just made it... Tears of laughter here. I didnt know you were here too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kyrreca Posted August 13, 2008 Members Share Posted August 13, 2008 I can eat pretty much anything and stay skinny. Life's unfair, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dap99 Posted August 13, 2008 Members Share Posted August 13, 2008 I can eat pretty much anything and stay skinny. Life's unfair, I guess. :mad::mad::mad::mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fatso Forgottso Posted August 13, 2008 Members Share Posted August 13, 2008 I can eat pretty much anything and stay skinny. Life's unfair, I guess. yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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