Members Welladjusted Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 He lost, cause big business always wins. That'd be irrelevant in this case, since Coldplay and Satch are both on huge labels (EMI and Epic respectively) owned by two of the largest companies on the planet. Businesses don't come much bigger than General Electric and Sony. In fact, they probably wield more power than most governments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FuzzShifter Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 Just saying.... Listen, starting at about 2:06 in.[YOUTUBE]8fhprKms_6M[/YOUTUBE] Make up your own mind about this melody.[YOUTUBE]r1JtXB6QVQ8[/YOUTUBE] Personally, I think satch should get prince'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SteinbergerHack Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 He lost, cause big business always wins.Yeah, right.Just like McDonalds with the "hot coffee" lawsuit...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gold_soundz Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 Those songs sound pretty similar to me... Music aside (though not neccessarily) Satriani has to be one of the most ridiculous looking people I've ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members goldie-gold Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 They are both god awful songs so who gives a {censored}. If I were Satriani, I would be trying to distance myself from such hideous noise not accepting blame for inflicting it on the world. Seriously though, I think you could very well compose music which has such a simple chord structure and hit on pretty much the same tune. It is a long shot but it could be coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sethlover Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 These plagiarizing suits are getting harder and harder to prove as the years go by. Everyone is consciously or subconsciously ripping each other off. This suit with Satch and Coldplay looks a little more promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members analogmike Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 If I was Satch I would be too embarassed by that lame gh** Coldplay tune to admit every having anything to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gschmittling Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 it probably was a coincidence. But it's the melody that's copyrighted, not the chord progression. There are a zillion songs with that same progression, but it's what you do with the melody that makes it unique. In fact, I wrote a progression a couple of months ago and when a friend asked me to transcribe a Jason Mraz song, I realized it was the same progression, verse and chorus that I wrote a couple of months ago. Needless to say, I nearly wanted to shoot myself. {censored} happens, and as long as it wasn't intentional I say who cares. Then again, I'm not looking at a big fat paycheck. Oh, and I love the Satch, and don't sound anything like him ??? He's got chops up the ass for blues/rock stuff. I don't get why people hate music they don't like, it's okay not to like something, but to degrade it and think it's not worthy of existing is a little strange to me. Aren't we all musicians with different aspirations and styles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kyrreca Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 coldplay is about as original as plugging a tele into a DMM into a vox and then posting pictures of it on the internet. Nice one. :phil: As the guy above me said, this isn't about the chord progression, it's the melody. There are a lot of progressions that are used on a plethora of songs. Pretty much every way you can fit together 3-4 chords and make it coherent and catchy to the general public has been taken. I agree that the melodies are very similar at some places, but it is a pretty logical melody over a pretty standard progression, so it could have been a coincidence. That being said, I'm not sure if I'm willing to give Coldplay the benefit of doubt, given their previous plagiarism-accusations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fender&EHX4ever Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 I'm not a Satriani fan, so I have no problem saying that if Satriani needs a career boost, this is a really lame way to go about it. If he had more talent, he'd make a hit song ripping off the melody from "Yellow." :bor: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jules-RM Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 That's why I'm glad I write songs with other people now. Me and the bass player are always playing two entirely different things, it's pretty much impossible to rip (or inadvertently rip) other people off that way. But then I refuse to rip myself off. I hate both Coldplay and Satriani - the tone deaf bastard. They are both talentless wanks in their own ways. I wouldn't be surprised if Coldplay produces a 30 year old song and say "we ripped this one off". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Collapse Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 I'll just quote myself on this one: That definitely sounds like a melody line that anyone could have randomly come up with. I would just about swear I've heard it elsewhere, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Univoxer Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 I guess sometimes people come up with the same thing just at different times:idk: Dani California is the same chord progression, played the same way, written about a similar subject as Mary Jane's Last Dance by Tom Petty and I think the same guy produced both songs:facepalm: (my first facepalm) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fruvai Posted December 5, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 I guess sometimes people come up with the same thing just at different times:idk:Dani California is the same chord progression, played the same way, written about a similar subject as Mary Jane's Last Dance by Tom Petty and I think the same guy produced both songs:facepalm: (my first facepalm) It's not , it's slightly different. Dani California = Am - G - DmMary Jane's Last Dance = Am - G - D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members junior4 Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 It's not , it's slightly different.Dani California = Am - G - DmMary Jane's Last Dance = Am - G - D and it has a better solo...ftw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tubezipper Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 and it has a better solo...ftw yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members echodeluxe Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 wtf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jlantsberger Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 things happen, everything in music has been done but the whole band committing suicide in front of an audience. Come to my band's show this weekend... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NBarnes21 Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 I severely dislike both parties involved, I hope they have a cage fight to the death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hierophant Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 this is so stupid. {censored}. that really isn't that unique a melody. so many songs sound similar enough to sue if this is a guideline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members easyliver Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 coldplay are {censored}ed...regardless of either parties career status, that's a bit of theft right there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Keith SIO Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 Once i heard it was viva la vide, that guitar line instantly popped in my head, but i would have never thought of it unless it was pointed out to me, like it is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dsl Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 :poke::poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jgs61 Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 Both songs suck ass, but I would chalk it up to coincidence. Satriani needs to just acknowledge that he blows just as much as Coldplay and shut up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mistle Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 god this satriani guy is a douche and a half. it really doesn't get any more pathetic than suing over something like that it makes no sense either. every pop song has that level of similarity to others. and the melody is so simple and obvious. if you played that chord progression to ten people one of them would probably come up with the same thing and besides WHO CARES?! a bit of melody like that has no particular musical value to anyone in itself. when you hear it in one song it means one thing and when you hear it in another one it means something else. otherwise people would probably have given a {censored} about satriani's song i'm not even a coldplay fan, but this is just incredibly uncool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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