Members NetStar Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 they also stole a song from another band, not sure what the band is called...the song "i want to rule the world" not sure if its the title but those lyrics come to mind...they stole that song That's this song. I saw that on youtube.... Dunno what it was called, the video, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lou Speed Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 they also stole a song from another band, not sure what the band is called...the song "i want to rule the world" not sure if its the title but those lyrics come to mind...they stole that song anyone know who the other band is? does their song predate Satriani's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members junior4 Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 That's this song. I saw that on youtube.... Dunno what it was called, the video, though. yeah i saw it on youtube as well....they have it where they play the orginal for 10 seconds then switch to the coldplay version for 10 seconds and they keep doing that to show you that its the same...first time i saw that i was like ...i dont listen to coldplay, but you cant keep stealing songs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members I Am Chris Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 if satriani wins this. maybe the originator of I-IV-V should seek his royalties too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SoliDeoGloria Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 ooo this could get nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members onyxrhino Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 eh, they sound similar, but that's not the world's most unique chord progression/melody either. Satriani's lawyers would have a very hard time proving that Coldplay intended to copy Satriani's melody, and it would be even harder to prove damages. Satriani is probably just hoping the record company pays him off (they probably will). The only thing that could make this cool is if Tom Petty then sues Satriani for stealing his song title. (I know, I know titles aren't protected under copyright, but still...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Small Stone Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 Someone in Coldplay listens to Satriani. That's like getting caught masturbating, or having your sextape all over the internet. Still, I'm on Joe's side. Go Joe! Kick that DS-1 and sue those lame RadU2head wannabes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chisa Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 i don't think they ripped him off. it is a very obvious progression and melody. i bet if you look back at some classical pieces the melody is there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Travisaurus Rex Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 I hope Joe wins but I agree with ONYXRHINO in the fact that it will be hard to prove. Either way he will have one of the most downloaded songs in history and it will boost his sales and recognition. GO JOE!! Coldplay sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rileykill Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 Satriani is probably just hoping the record company pays him off (they probably will). This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members junior4 Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 [YOUTUBE]eUhFLiw6h6s[/YOUTUBE] i think this is the video i was talking about..i dont have sound on my computer but i think this is the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members veil Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 Someone in Coldplay listens to Satriani. That's like getting caught masturbating, or having your sextape all over the internet. It's more like having your Virginityforevertape all over the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mind_Riot89 Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 Why is there so much hating on Joe? He's awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jay3265E Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 This just adds to my long list of reasons why they're bags of douche. But by this point it's worthless to pile anything else on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members veil Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 They can still litigate even if Coldplay didn't knowingly rip them off. If Satriana can't prove that they did it on purpose, the potential damages will likely be smaller, but if I remember my college music biz courses correctly he can still take them to court. An exact copy of the melody is bad enough, but with the arrangement (chord progression) behind it also being the same, it does not look good for Coldplay. If they are smart maybe they will try to settle out of court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ReckedTrek Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 coldplay is about as original as plugging a tele into a DMM into a vox and then posting pictures of it on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members H.R. Shove and Stuff Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 coldplay is about as original as plugging a tele into a DMM into a vox and then posting pictures of it on the internet. bam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Demian03 Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 THe melody isn't exactly the same and its not for enough bars for it to hold up in court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JohnCub Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 All of this is saddening. I hear the marked similarities in both the satch song and that chris martin thing. I think coldplay will go down in a flaming pile of money. I can see why he would want a jury trial. Get people that are not insiders, those without the jaded edge of a musician. The people that buy a lot of coldplay, and I don't mean to say musicians don't... but you know, just regular people. that's their market I think. Anyway, your joe-jury guy, I think, will also hear the melody mimic the guitar work joe set up. I hope and pray I never do this myself. There are times I will insert something that says "hey thanks" but before I ever released an album, if I ever did, I would ask the original artist for their permission and if they wanted a cut of the profits or credit in songwriting or whatever I would consider it. Or take out the offending part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members onyxrhino Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 They can still litigate even if Coldplay didn't knowingly rip them off. If Satriana can't prove that they did it on purpose, the potential damages will likely be smaller, but if I remember my college music biz courses correctly he can still take them to court.An exact copy of the melody is bad enough, but with the arrangement (chord progression) behind it also being the same, it does not look good for Coldplay. If they are smart maybe they will try to settle out of court. He can take them to court, true, but if you can't show that they had a motive or tried to copy him, then you're going to have a tough time getting any money. Copyright law and fair use is still pretty ill defined in terms of law statutes and precedents, and lots of songs sound similar to other songs (comparatively, the similarities between radiohead's "reckoner" and that french song are alot more suspicious). You're better off trying to sue for trademark infringement (which is significantly different than copyright infirngement), but, for that, you have to show damages, and Satriani probably couldn't do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kid_A Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 That other band that tried to sue later admitted to "having a laugh" just to get their name out there didnt they? I dont see what the problem is... so a song sounds similar, can you see Chris MArtin sat on youtube typing SATCH and buzzing off his riffs then stealing them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bobby D Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 the first coldplay album DIDNT SUCK.... kinda lost touch with them after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Small Stone Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 (comparatively, the similarities between radiohead's "reckoner" and that french song are alot more suspicious) Explain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members veil Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 He can take them to court, true, but if you can't show that they had a motive or tried to copy him, then you're going to have a tough time getting any money. Copyright law and fair use is still pretty ill defined in terms of law statutes and precedents, and lots of songs sound similar to other songs (comparatively, the similarities between radiohead's "reckoner" and that french song are alot more suspicious). You're better off trying to sue for trademark infringement (which is significantly different than copyright infirngement), but, for that, you have to show damages, and Satriani probably couldn't do that. Trademark? For what, though? You can't really trademark sound recordings unless you're using it as some kind of audio logo, e.g. the Intel bing-boong-BONK sound. Unless! He sues them for infringing on his SIGNATURE TOAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BHz_econo Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 Well you know I think we've all done it. Written something that sounded cool then listened to it later and realized it was another song or part of it. On the other hand... I think Coldplay is effed in the A on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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