Members Frank Drebin Posted January 15, 2009 Members Share Posted January 15, 2009 Any thoughts...opinions...reasons??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members revontulet Posted January 15, 2009 Members Share Posted January 15, 2009 In my mind I think compression should come first in the chain...because you want to squish your original guitar signal...but then again some fuzzes ain't keen on being anywhere other than first... so ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Frank Drebin Posted January 15, 2009 Author Members Share Posted January 15, 2009 In my mind I think compression should come first in the chain...because you want to squish your original guitar signal...but then again some fuzzes ain't keen on being anywhere other than first... so ?? FWIW...the fuzz I have in mind is the MXR Classic 108 with a Keeley Comp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IRG Posted January 15, 2009 Members Share Posted January 15, 2009 Might be able to pull it off with the MXR because of the buffer. So the comp might be able to go first. I went through this with a Route 66 od/compressor, and ran a fuzz face before it and it was horrible, and even after it, it didn't seem right. I got rid of both pedals. Back to a Classic 108 now myself. Haven't tried it with my comp, maybe I should see how it goes. But no room on my board now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SpectralJulian Posted January 15, 2009 Members Share Posted January 15, 2009 Do you really need them on at the same time? Just try it both ways, see which way you like it. Compressor after fuzz could be interesting, because fuzz tones change with your dynamics. With comp after fuzz, you could change the fuzz sound by altering dynamics without altering volume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Frank Drebin Posted January 15, 2009 Author Members Share Posted January 15, 2009 Might be able to pull it off with the MXR because of the buffer. So the comp might be able to go first. I went through this with a Route 66 od/compressor, and ran a fuzz face before it and it was horrible, and even after it, it didn't seem right. I got rid of both pedals. Back to a Classic 108 now myself. Haven't tried it with my comp, maybe I should see how it goes. But no room on my board now. Cool, thanks. I may just have to try a few different ways. But I do know that nither one will be absolutely first in my chain. it just can't happen due to like you said, room on my board issues. My wah will be first, followed by tuner, volume, boost and then either fuzz or comp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members booher Posted January 15, 2009 Members Share Posted January 15, 2009 I run my FZ-3 first in the chain. Only real reason is because one of my guitar idols does. I figured he's on to something. I've tried it both ways (I use a CS-2), and I didn't notice a huge difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kpd78 Posted January 15, 2009 Members Share Posted January 15, 2009 Just try it both ways, see which way you like it. Compressor after fuzz could be interesting, because fuzz tones change with your dynamics. With comp after fuzz, you could change the fuzz sound by altering dynamics without altering volume. this is a good point. for this reason, i nearly always put my compressor (Boss CS-2) after all of my dirt pedals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Reauchambeau Posted January 15, 2009 Members Share Posted January 15, 2009 compressor should always goes first because they were designed to be controlled by the strings and pups,nothing else.they also raise the noise floor, so the noise produced by whatever comes before them,especially something as noisey as a fuzz pedal,will be amplified. I used to run a Dynacomp before a Fuzzface with great results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rydia is hot Posted January 15, 2009 Members Share Posted January 15, 2009 i disagree with the above. comps are very useful after certain effects; synth pedals in particular. my tone press really helps smooth out some of the otherwise piercing tones that my hog can produce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kpd78 Posted January 15, 2009 Members Share Posted January 15, 2009 compressor should always goes first because they were designed to be controlled by the strings and pups,nothing else.they also raise the noise floor, so the noise produced by whatever comes before them,especially something as noisey as a fuzz pedal,will be amplified. I used to run a Dynacomp before a Fuzzface with great results. like i said above, i usually run my comp after my dirt. none of my fuzzes or overdrives are set for very high gain so i don't have much noise. and even then, my comp (itself set quite low) doesn't seem to boost any noise by very much. if a compressor should always go first, what happens if you have an auto-wah or envelope filter (or similar) which responds to input levels...having a comp before that type of effect would lessen their usefulness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boytbpc Posted January 15, 2009 Members Share Posted January 15, 2009 compressor should always goes first because they were designed to be controlled by the strings and pups,nothing else.they also raise the noise floor, so the noise produced by whatever comes before them,especially something as noisey as a fuzz pedal,will be amplified. I used to run a Dynacomp before a Fuzzface with great results. My compressor is after all my dirt/fuzz and before my mod/delay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Reauchambeau Posted January 15, 2009 Members Share Posted January 15, 2009 rules are for fools,peeps can put them wherever they want,I just thought I'd mention the intended standard for the cleanest quietest traditional performance,that's all. what I like about guitar is you can do whatever you want,try plugging a crybaby wah in backwards sometime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crxsh Posted January 15, 2009 Members Share Posted January 15, 2009 I run my Diamond Comp at the front of my chain ... followed by OD & Fuzz, Delay & Verb. Why? Because it sounds fine ... no complaints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Amplifier Worship Posted January 15, 2009 Members Share Posted January 15, 2009 rules are for fools,peeps can put them wherever they want,I just thought I'd mention the intended standard for the cleanest quietest traditional performance,that's all. what I like about guitar is you can do whatever you want,try plugging a crybaby wah in backwards sometime. This is wise. wah backwards: love that sound. Echoes by floyd! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members josh27 Posted January 15, 2009 Members Share Posted January 15, 2009 fuzz before compressor. Especially with a fuzz face type so you can use guitar volume to clean it up but stay the same volume Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jay3265E Posted January 15, 2009 Members Share Posted January 15, 2009 I love the fuzz after the comp. When run in conjunction they sound pretty amazing. Roll off your guitar volume a bit and it turns the fuzz into overdrive. Excellent effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SpectralJulian Posted January 15, 2009 Members Share Posted January 15, 2009 compressor should always goes first because they were designed to be controlled by the strings and pups,nothing else.they also raise the noise floor, so the noise produced by whatever comes before them,especially something as noisey as a fuzz pedal,will be amplified. I used to run a Dynacomp before a Fuzzface with great results. I'm sorry, but that's an awful reason to do something one way. Using musical devices in ways they weren't designed for is the mother of musical invention. This is an FX pedal board, half of the FX we love come from using things in a manner they weren't designed for. Pushing amps meant to stay clean into distortion, touching your finger to a tape reel to create flanging, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Reauchambeau Posted January 15, 2009 Members Share Posted January 15, 2009 I'm sorry, but that's an awful reason to do something one way. Using musical devices in ways they weren't designed for is the mother of musical invention. This is an FX pedal board, half of the FX we love come from using things in a manner they weren't designed for.Pushing amps meant to stay clean into distortion, touching your finger to a tape reel to create flanging, etc. I couldn't agree more,although I don't see a compressor as an effect to make much of an anarchistic statement with,my sound engineering background has engrained compressor apps. into my brain and that's why i put them at the front,no biggie,to each his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dap99 Posted January 16, 2009 Members Share Posted January 16, 2009 I have a BYOC muff clone and 5 knob compressor. Tried the comp pre and post, decided on pre. Really makes the muff sing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ambient Posted January 16, 2009 Members Share Posted January 16, 2009 I couldn't agree more,although I don't see a compressor as an effect to make much of an anarchistic statement with,my sound engineering background has engrained compressor apps. into my brain and that's why i put them at the front,no biggie,to each his own. Then you will know that compression is often applied to a guitar signal post fuzz, post amp, post mic. in fact this is the way you as a sound engineer would apply it in tracking, the mix down or mastering. Billy corgans guitar rig on Meloncolie mostly consisted of pre-amp > compressor > power amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Reauchambeau Posted January 16, 2009 Members Share Posted January 16, 2009 I think I'm being misunderstood here, I've said twice now that there are no rules when it applies to guitar,when it comes to sound reinforcement I play by the rules,please everyone just ignore my previous posts. thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rob Artz Posted November 25, 2019 Members Share Posted November 25, 2019 I run in the order of: Guitar - Dunlop Cry Baby Wah - Boss CS2 Compressor Sustainer - Homebrew UFO - Sib Cuda - TC Electronic Hall Of Fame - Amp. Great sound and all pedals very manageable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dweebking Posted November 27, 2019 Members Share Posted November 27, 2019 so subjective and fuzz dependent there are no rules. i run my comp/sonuus voluum before fuzz because i don't ride my volume knob in front of a fuzzface. i'm able to set my fuzz's starve/gating/sputter much higher and ride the expression pedal to interact with it, much fun to be had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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