Members Hoopaa Posted January 22, 2008 Members Share Posted January 22, 2008 These things aren't very useful when the line outs just decide to give up and stop working. This is the second unit I've had with this problem. The first was broken out of the box, and this replacement worked for a couple of months and just died. Does anyone know how Alesis' warranty support is? Looks like I will be needing to send this in for service. I'm pretty bummed though. Fool me once, you know? This thing is going on eBay when / if I can get it fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members eric Posted January 22, 2008 Members Share Posted January 22, 2008 Alesis is not really making keyboards anymore. You may want to consider a different brand if you are replacing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Craymaster Posted January 22, 2008 Members Share Posted January 22, 2008 Yeah, even if you're gettin it fixed, the next one will croak sooner or later. Ship that thing off to Australia, where all the old synths go to die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members -groovatious- Posted January 22, 2008 Members Share Posted January 22, 2008 My ION has the same problem. Left output just crapped itself. If you do get it fixed, would be great if you could let me know the procedure! Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkShovel2 Posted January 22, 2008 Members Share Posted January 22, 2008 Hi guys, I saw on the alesis micron user's group that this is a common problem. There is an output mute FET that gets zapped by ESD and keeps the output muted. I recall that the headphone output may still work after this problem. Please check your headphone output. One work around is to use the headphone output with an adaptor cable to your mixer/amplifer input. The repair is easy if you can solder small circuits. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hoopaa Posted January 22, 2008 Author Members Share Posted January 22, 2008 Yes, the headphone output works. But it is not a line level output and I don't care to deal with such BS as trying to convert headphone signal to line when after spending the money on a working product. The headphone output will go out anyway. My first Micron was a refurb and both outputs were busted out of the box. I'm pretty pissed over this. I've had a Technics and Korg keyboards for years and none of them have anything like this. It's just cheap parts + shoddy engineering. GG Alesis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members eric Posted January 22, 2008 Members Share Posted January 22, 2008 Yes, the headphone output works. But it is not a line level output and I don't care to deal with such BS as trying to convert headphone signal to line when after spending the money on a working product. The headphone output will go out anyway. My first Micron was a refurb and both outputs were busted out of the box. I'm pretty pissed over this. I've had a Technics and Korg keyboards for years and none of them have anything like this. It's just cheap parts + shoddy engineering. GG Alesis. You can continue to be pissed or simply move on to another board. I had problems with a Micron (which I think I shared with you BEFORE you purchased) and I dropped it like a bad habit. Some folks swear by their Microns, but the ones with problems should just find something else. Good luck with whatever happens. You should just get a Moog Voyager and be done with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members -groovatious- Posted January 22, 2008 Members Share Posted January 22, 2008 My ION also has a high pitched whine in the left output, together with the lack of volume. This whine is also there in the headphones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hoopaa Posted January 22, 2008 Author Members Share Posted January 22, 2008 Good luck with whatever happens. You should just get a Moog Voyager and be done with it. Moog Voyager isn't ideal for what I'm doing. I may just pony up and buy the R3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xmlguy Posted January 22, 2008 Members Share Posted January 22, 2008 Moog Voyager isn't ideal for what I'm doing. I may just pony up and buy the R3. I heard that Best Buy opened up a music gear department at one of the stores near Richmond/Oakland as part of a market test with three SoCal stores (Riverside, Murrietta, San Berdoo). The SoCal locations are willing to sell well below Guitar Center/Sam Ash. Figure around 20% below it for the R3. Plus Korg has a $100 rebate on the R3. I got my R3 for about $420 before the rebate during the Black Friday sales due to an additional store gift card promotion. Right now, you could end up paying as little as $460+tax after rebate. Another option would be to go for a Radias Rack on ebay, but they're usually going for $700 or more. The R3 has the same synth structure as the Radias, with two timbres and 8 poly, instead of four timbres (one being a drum kit), 24 poly and dual arps instead of single. The R3 has four assignable knobs instead of the parameter knobs of the Radias, which may be better or worse depending on how you use it. I prefer the R3 assignable knobs so that I can pick the parameters for the knobs, but I wouldn't avoid buying the Radias for that. My decision was based on the price/value I got for the R3 and because it sounds great. I also really like having the editor librarian software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jemgel Posted January 22, 2008 Members Share Posted January 22, 2008 I was warned off of mine by a local dealer that dropped Alesis a while back to them not honoring various warranty claims. I have one, but I feel the time bomb may be ticking on it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members raffor Posted January 22, 2008 Members Share Posted January 22, 2008 Join the Yahoo ION/MICRON group. Here is what they say (couldn't find the pic though, but it is sitting close to the stereo out (each side has one FET)): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hoopaa Posted January 24, 2008 Author Members Share Posted January 24, 2008 Join the Yahoo ION/MICRON group. Here is what they say (couldn't find the pic though, but it is sitting close to the stereo out (each side has one FET)): thanks, but it would be better to see the pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members suitandtieguy Posted January 24, 2008 Members Share Posted January 24, 2008 depending on which FET it is, you might be able to replace it with something more robust, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jrlaudio Posted January 24, 2008 Members Share Posted January 24, 2008 Yeah but after he goes through the trouble of fixing the FET, something else will break. Alesis ... nuff said. Low quality MI level crap of the lowest denominator. Get something else and toss this one out. Really. Your gonna drive yourself nutz otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Diametro Posted January 24, 2008 Members Share Posted January 24, 2008 I will probably never buy another Alesis product unless it comes highly rated, etc. etc. I'm glad I have my Micron, but it also happens to work. Teh Fusion might get donated to my nephew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OPEN OCEAN Posted January 24, 2008 Members Share Posted January 24, 2008 think i need to get rid of mine ASAP hahahhaha.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Diametro Posted January 24, 2008 Members Share Posted January 24, 2008 That would leave you 210 synth? haha . . . . . . I need a present for my soon-to-be-coming Juno-106 ... the acapella version of "Hit That Perfect Beat Boy" ... Geez, how cool would that be? Hmmmmm ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OPEN OCEAN Posted January 24, 2008 Members Share Posted January 24, 2008 no man i only have 67 hahahaha... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members suitandtieguy Posted January 25, 2008 Members Share Posted January 25, 2008 it's unfortunate. the Micron is a really neat little synthesiser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mildbill Posted January 25, 2008 Members Share Posted January 25, 2008 ...... the Micron is a really neat little synthesiser. Yes it is. I plan on getting another one in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ekeys Posted January 25, 2008 Members Share Posted January 25, 2008 No it's not the best but there are many, many happy micron users. It feels a nitch with many people set up for little money. On another note:lol:, any body happy with the novation xiosynth for live use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Acid Hazard Posted January 26, 2008 Members Share Posted January 26, 2008 I wonder if this problem is going to be like the Juno's dead voice issue, or just a bad batch of parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rugge78 Posted January 26, 2008 Members Share Posted January 26, 2008 I don't know what's is really going about your Microns in America.Fortunately here in Italy we haven't had those problems anymore...no data encoder problems or line out whine sounds... Mine is a second hand working since 2006.Maybe Alesis have two assembling lines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soundxplorer Posted January 27, 2008 Members Share Posted January 27, 2008 Alesis will fix this if it is under warranty. My warranty ran out, so I fixed it myself (and then immediately sold the ION ). If you know how to use a soldering iron, it is a fairly simple job. Otherwise, any electronics repair shop should be able to solder it on for you. The replacement part is less than $2. The FETs are labeled J111. By using this parts cross-reference, I found a replacement made by NTE Electronics (NTE468). I went ahead and replaced both on mine, even though only the right output was bad. It worked perfectly afterwards. Here are some pics: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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