Poparad Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I have a Rat and a Small Clone that both do this. Both have the same kind of metal button to turn them on and off, and when I do, they pop loudly. What's the cause of this, and how would I go about fixing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr. Sarum Posted November 16, 2009 Members Share Posted November 16, 2009 I think it's just a resistor or a footswitch swap. But I'm not the most qualified person here to say for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members devonteran Posted November 16, 2009 Members Share Posted November 16, 2009 Switch to all boss pedals. Get a DS-1 and a CE-2 No more true bypass = no more popping. oh, and send me your RAT. Problems solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fool Evolved Posted November 16, 2009 Members Share Posted November 16, 2009 electro hamonix just do that every one i've owned has done it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poparad Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 Switch to all boss pedals. Get a DS-1 and a CE-2No more true bypass = no more popping. I mostly do have Boss pedals, and I do have a DS-1 already. I never use chorus, but the pedal does it too, so I figured it was worth mentioning. I do like the sound of the Rat though. On my pedal board I've got a Tonebone, but it's a pain in the ass to take things off the board, so when I only need a minimal set up, I've got a Rat for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members devonteran Posted November 16, 2009 Members Share Posted November 16, 2009 I believe a more realistic answer has to do with loads that are placed on the signal. I believe General Guitar Gadgets has some stuff about how to wire up capacitors in your pedals to catch the problem. www.generalguitargadgets.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SharkMinusBear Posted November 16, 2009 Members Share Posted November 16, 2009 Just a guess, but if you are running everything in an effects loop, sometimes pedals can pop more than normal. Otherwise you pretty much live with it, those types of switches (that have true bypass) tend to pop to some degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members needleTOink Posted November 16, 2009 Members Share Posted November 16, 2009 new switch or add resistors at the jacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HazeFX Posted November 16, 2009 Members Share Posted November 16, 2009 Isn't it just a static buildup? Always been my understanding, I notice it when playing alone on the 3PDT switches but it isn't noticable in a live situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members devonteran Posted November 16, 2009 Members Share Posted November 16, 2009 you're looking for this:http://www.geofex.com/Article_Folders/box_pop.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mistersuperfly Posted November 16, 2009 Members Share Posted November 16, 2009 It is just a static build up in 3PDT switches... You cab minimize it by clicking the pedals on and off a few times before you use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members eboe Posted November 16, 2009 Members Share Posted November 16, 2009 Yeah, my Clone Theory and my MXR Flanger and Zakk Wylde OD all do that, it's damn annoying since they are all in front of my delay, and when I have a nice delay going, and all of a sudden, POP! POP POP POP POP POP POP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members echodeluxe Posted November 16, 2009 Members Share Posted November 16, 2009 put a 100K to 4.7M (exact value does not matter) resistor from the "outboard" end of both the input and output capacitors to ground. This keeps the ends of the capacitors pulled to the right voltage all the time, and cures the leakage problem. No capacitor clicks. this is what you need. do you know how to solder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knives490 Posted November 16, 2009 Members Share Posted November 16, 2009 the best I've found is to use a 4M7 resistor on the in and out jacks from the tip to the sleeve on each for the best results. They wont interfere with the audio signal, except for getting rid of the pops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members whiteop Posted November 16, 2009 Members Share Posted November 16, 2009 before you do anything, always check your guitar cable / cord. Most of the time this is the problem and it's very easily fixed by swapping them out for new ones. Found that out the hard way awhile back after fixing things that didn't need to be fixed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poparad Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 this is what you need. do you know how to solder? Yes I do. I figured it would involve either replacing something faulty or adding a resister somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poparad Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 before you do anything, always check your guitar cable / cord. Most of the time this is the problem and it's very easily fixed by swapping them out for new ones. Found that out the hard way awhile back after fixing things that didn't need to be fixed... True, although I'm certain it's not that in this case. I've used the same pedal with a few different cables and it does the same thing regardless of the setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brian Marshall Posted November 16, 2009 Members Share Posted November 16, 2009 There may be a voltage offset somewhere in one of your pedals or your amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poparad Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 Thanks for all the help! I'm going to pick up some resisters from Radio Shack tomorrow and do some soldering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members accenttothefuture Posted November 16, 2009 Members Share Posted November 16, 2009 I have a Rat and a Small Clone that both do this. Both have the same kind of metal button to turn them on and off, and when I do, they pop loudly. What's the cause of this, and how would I go about fixing it? you need to hire someone that could replace the 3pdt(foot switch) with a better one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tape Posted November 16, 2009 Members Share Posted November 16, 2009 as well as possibly being a footswitch problem, it can also be attributable to bad caps. I had one DIY pedal start popping recently immidiatelly after I had accidentally powered it with reverse polarity for about a second, messing up most of the caps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IRG Posted November 16, 2009 Members Share Posted November 16, 2009 I have this problem with my Diamond Vibrato, since day 1. Not in the effects loop, and early in my signal chain. Not static buildup either, does not go away with repeated off and ons. Not my cables either. I think it must be the switch they use. I'm also not going to solder, I'll send it back to Diamond if I do anything. I might try a buffered boost in front of it and see if that does anything. Some pedals do this though, and it is annoying, especially for the price paid, although I love the pedal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AMZ-FX Posted November 16, 2009 Moderators Share Posted November 16, 2009 Here are fixes for two common pop problems: http://www.muzique.com/news/pulldown-resistors/ and http://www.muzique.com/lab/led.htm regards, Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fly135 Posted November 16, 2009 Members Share Posted November 16, 2009 Do the offending pedals pop when used by themselves? I had an issue of popping pedals that was caused by a pedal in front of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members H.R. Shove and Stuff Posted November 16, 2009 Members Share Posted November 16, 2009 Just use switching IC's for bypass, they don't pop and they are cheaper then a good 3PDT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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