Members sabriel9v Posted February 1, 2010 Members Share Posted February 1, 2010 he may have only meant their 'proper' albums (i.e. not live or compilations)...Gish, Siamese Dream, Mellon Collie, Machina and yes, I liked bits and pieces of Adore and Zeitgeist. Your point :poke: I love this debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kpd78 Posted February 1, 2010 Members Share Posted February 1, 2010 Gish, Siamese Dream, Mellon Collie, Machina and yes, I liked bits and pieces of Adore and Zeitgeist. Your point :poke: I love this debate my point was that out of the albums Orangesix listed, three of them are compilations or live recordings.what's your point? :poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PatrickF Posted February 1, 2010 Members Share Posted February 1, 2010 I think Cobain would probably be a lot like Corgan is today if he wasn't killed/suicided. People don't realize that he was kinda a loser. Didn't he beg his label to pay more to MTV so they would play more Nirvana videos? The Pumpkins albums that came out during the Nirvana era were better (imo) than the corresponding Nirvana albums. Oh, and I'm not taking any of Corgan's recent {censored} into consideration with my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jules-RM Posted February 1, 2010 Members Share Posted February 1, 2010 You need to listen to Adore a few times to appreciate it, I like it more than Gish. Machina is a great album. I could see how a metal head wouldn't like it, but to a old school Post-Punk fan like me, it was awesome. I was hoping for more like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members melx Posted February 1, 2010 Members Share Posted February 1, 2010 my point was that out of the albums Orangesix listed, three of them are compilations or live recordings. what's your point? :poke: I said 'GOOD' albums... of course that's subjective but to me Nirvana made three, SP made two.... THAT's my point, I have no idea what you lot are going on about. ..... anyway Love Battery made 5 good albums, that's the important point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members melx Posted February 1, 2010 Members Share Posted February 1, 2010 ............anyway hands up who's seen both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PatrickF Posted February 1, 2010 Members Share Posted February 1, 2010 ............anyway hands up who's seen both. FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sabriel9v Posted February 1, 2010 Members Share Posted February 1, 2010 my point was that out of the albums Orangesix listed, three of them are compilations or live recordings. what's your point? :poke: My point is that the Pumpkins released more than two good albums and they weren't live recordings or compilations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoboPimp Posted February 1, 2010 Members Share Posted February 1, 2010 this is a "who's the better producer" thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members onyxrhino Posted February 1, 2010 Members Share Posted February 1, 2010 It's funny when people try to come up with objective reasons as to why they prefer one band to another. You like the Smashing Pumpkins more because they were better musicians? Because they worked in a greater variety of genres? Fine. But that's no reason for anybody else to prefer them. If it was, then we ought to all prefer Chicago to the Ramones and while we're at it, we probably shouldn't even be listening to rock music, since the musicianship is much greater in classical symphonies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sabriel9v Posted February 1, 2010 Members Share Posted February 1, 2010 If it was, then we ought to all prefer Chicago to the Ramones and while we're at it, we probably shouldn't even be listening to rock music, since the musicianship is much greater in classical symphonies. Ah don't get me started on that. Please don't get on the classical music elitist high horse...Onyx I want to like you man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RUExp? Posted February 1, 2010 Members Share Posted February 1, 2010 Ah don't get me started on that. Please don't get on the classical music elitist high horse...Onyx I want to like you man. I think he makes a valid point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Still.ill Posted February 1, 2010 Author Members Share Posted February 1, 2010 first you dont take musician ship into account unless the songs are better which they are like i prefer cobains songs over say yngwie malmsteen stuff... because his songs are better.but Corgan's songs are better than cobain's songs... so his musicianship is like an added plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RUExp? Posted February 1, 2010 Members Share Posted February 1, 2010 first you dont take musician ship into account unless the songs are better which they arelike i prefer cobains songs over say yngwie malmsteen stuff... because his songs are better.but Corgan's songs are better than cobain's songs... so his musicianship is like an added plus I think Nirvana's songs are better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Marmoset King Posted February 1, 2010 Members Share Posted February 1, 2010 ............anyway hands up who's seen both. Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sabriel9v Posted February 1, 2010 Members Share Posted February 1, 2010 first you dont take musician ship into account unless the songs are better which they arelike i prefer cobains songs over say yngwie malmsteen stuff... because his songs are better.but Corgan's songs are better than cobain's songs... so his musicianship is like an added plus I'm about on the same page, musicianship is always an added plus to me, but well written and catchy melodies with strong rhythms always take precedent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members onyxrhino Posted February 1, 2010 Members Share Posted February 1, 2010 Ah don't get me started on that. Please don't get on the classical music elitist high horse...Onyx I want to like you man. I think you misunderstood me. I'm the last person to get on the "classical music elitist high horse", all I really care about is how a piece of music feels, not the skill or technique that went into it. But, if one were to say that technical merit is the ultimate deciding factor in their preference for one piece of rock music over another, then I do wonder a bit as to why they are listening to rock music in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cassette Posted February 1, 2010 Members Share Posted February 1, 2010 I like both, but I'd have to go with Nirvana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members duderanimous Posted February 1, 2010 Members Share Posted February 1, 2010 I voted Pumpkins, but really can only listen to their work up through MCIS... they lost me after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Taylor. Posted February 1, 2010 Members Share Posted February 1, 2010 I'm surprised to find myself saying this, but Nirvana. I know all the usual complaints about Kurt Cobain but those guys together did some pretty special stuff. I really like Pumpkins but going with Nirv for this one. And I'm off to start the "Smashing Pumpkins vs. Nirvana728" parody thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members orangesix Posted February 1, 2010 Members Share Posted February 1, 2010 my point was that out of the albums Orangesix listed, three of them are compilations or live recordings. what's your point? :poke: well the compilation B-Side albums (Incesticide & Pisces Iscariot) are probably my favorite albums by each of those bands. so i d on't see why they wouldn't be considered stand alone albums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members orangesix Posted February 1, 2010 Members Share Posted February 1, 2010 I said 'GOOD' albums... of course that's subjective but to me Nirvana made three, SP made two.... THAT's my point, I have no idea what you lot are going on about. ..... anyway Love Battery made 5 good albums, that's the important point. i hope "in utero" and "bleach" are on that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members melx Posted February 1, 2010 Members Share Posted February 1, 2010 i hope "in utero" and "bleach" are on that list. in utero is my favorite Nirvana album. To be honest though I'm not a massive fan of bleach, there's a few songs on it I love but I probably listen (and like) incesticide more though.....even though it's not a real album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members oinkbanana Posted February 1, 2010 Members Share Posted February 1, 2010 well the compilation B-Side albums (Incesticide & Pisces Iscariot) are probably my favorite albums by each of those bands. so i d on't see why they wouldn't be considered stand alone albums. those are my faves by those bands too. B-sides always showed how great bands were. do bands today still do this? but SP for sure tops the list. bigger influence on my youth. the massive mcis & airplaine box set was such a huge influence. even machina & machina II was awesome in its breadth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Naterel Posted February 1, 2010 Members Share Posted February 1, 2010 I say I say, I do like what Ive done to this place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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