Members renula Posted October 7, 2010 Members Share Posted October 7, 2010 You don't realize the trickle down effect this has on EVERY facet of the industry, including guitar and amp manufacturers. the spam thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoboPimp Posted October 7, 2010 Members Share Posted October 7, 2010 did i say anything about the artist? lol.. the whole industry in general is getting screwed. good riddance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BTBAM Posted October 7, 2010 Members Share Posted October 7, 2010 but with the "new model" as soon as you sell one "record" on bandcamp, there's a chance it now can be distributed for free to everyone who wants it. also, the idea of "records" and "albums" ... that's the "old model" sorry man, technology gives and it takes away... this is true.If I did a search on google right now for Ancient Mariner - Darkness & Light, I get about 15 pages full of external links where people have uploaded all of my albums....mixed with several threads about Iron Maiden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HeartfeltDawn Posted October 7, 2010 Members Share Posted October 7, 2010 You tell me... The artist sees none of your second hand purchase money. Do you only buy new musical equipment then? No second hand pedals, guitars, amps, etc, in your collection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members renula Posted October 7, 2010 Members Share Posted October 7, 2010 The inquisition. Get Metallica to bring them down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MojoFilter Posted October 7, 2010 Members Share Posted October 7, 2010 [YOUTUBE]KQ5-BTdcqjk[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BTBAM Posted October 7, 2010 Members Share Posted October 7, 2010 This thread is really one of the best reads I've had in awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members six acre lake Posted October 7, 2010 Author Members Share Posted October 7, 2010 Do you understand the basic irrelevancy of your position?Let me put it like this:You think I should pay $1 per song. I disagree. I have access to a computer, and any number of options to download your song, with about zero chance of you stopping me from doing so.I win. I have your song, and paid nothing.Your music was free. Just because you can doesnt mean you should. Do you feel good about being a scumbag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members six acre lake Posted October 7, 2010 Author Members Share Posted October 7, 2010 SAL, I want to be the first one to buy your cd....and I want you to sign it...with your wiener. I will use jizz instead of ink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members crowguitar Posted October 7, 2010 Members Share Posted October 7, 2010 the most ridiculous thing is MUSICIANS defending this practice. wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BTBAM Posted October 7, 2010 Members Share Posted October 7, 2010 I will use jizz instead of ink. Free Jazz Maple is blowing my cranium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoboPimp Posted October 7, 2010 Members Share Posted October 7, 2010 Just because you can doesnt mean you should. Do you feel good about being a scumbag? SAL, I understand the frustration but really, you don't think people feeling guilty about DLing music for free is the answer? I used to use my cassette recorder to tape songs off the radio, technology has just made it a lot easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members six acre lake Posted October 7, 2010 Author Members Share Posted October 7, 2010 I'm aware of that, hence my question. You didn't answer my question. Are people who purchase second hand records assholes? Thats a trickier question... I like supporting my local record store as much as I like supporting the artists. I don't really buy used vinyl very often and I never buy used CDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MojoFilter Posted October 7, 2010 Members Share Posted October 7, 2010 Just because you can doesnt mean you should. Do you feel good about being a scumbag? Do you understand that this whole thread is absolutely pointless, other than a vehicle for getting up on a soapbox and giving a personal morality lecture, which none of us needed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members six acre lake Posted October 7, 2010 Author Members Share Posted October 7, 2010 Free Jazz Maple is blowing my cranium. ThNks. I can't wait to addthe other guys to the song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members crowguitar Posted October 7, 2010 Members Share Posted October 7, 2010 SAL, I understand the frustration but really, you don't think people feeling guilty about DLing music for free is the answer?I used to use my cassette recorder to tape songs off the radio, technology has just made it a lot easier. the difference being is that the blank cassette/CD manufacturers pay royalties to the major publishing companies and labels under laws, knowing its use for copying copyrighted materials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ryan. Posted October 7, 2010 Members Share Posted October 7, 2010 We need to find some points that we all agree on... 1) Everything has intrinsic value to someone. Even a bag of dog {censored} could probably be sold to Adam Sandler. 2) The market determines price. Customers only buy what they see as a value. 3) Stealing is wrong. 4) ...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members six acre lake Posted October 7, 2010 Author Members Share Posted October 7, 2010 SAL, I understand the frustration but really, you don't think people feeling guilty about DLing music for free is the answer?I used to use my cassette recorder to tape songs off the radio, technology has just made it a lot easier. No I don't think guilt will stop anything since, sadly no one feels guilty about it. This started because of folks just giving it away from jumpstreet. Yes I understand there is no shortage of tech out there but why set yourself up to be defeated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoboPimp Posted October 7, 2010 Members Share Posted October 7, 2010 the difference being is that the blank cassette/CD manufacturers pay royalties to the major publishing companies and labels under laws, knowing its use for copying copyrighted materials. makes no difference to me, who even uses cassettes or CDs anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members six acre lake Posted October 7, 2010 Author Members Share Posted October 7, 2010 the most ridiculous thing is MUSICIANS defending this practice. wow. Inorite. Talk about self depreciation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoboPimp Posted October 7, 2010 Members Share Posted October 7, 2010 No I don't think guilt will stop anything since, sadly no one feels guilty about it. This started because of folks just giving it away from jumpstreet. Yes I understand there is no shortage of tech out there but why set yourself up to be defeated. you don't have to be defeated but getting mad about it just won't do anything It's not just selling recorded music, the studios are going under because you can turn your laptop into a 32 channel studio, bars don't really care about live music any more because the jukeboxes have internet connections to DL any song a patron could want, even movies are going under the change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members crowguitar Posted October 7, 2010 Members Share Posted October 7, 2010 makes no difference to me, who even uses cassettes or CDs anymore? tell that to engineers who routinely make rough mix copies to listen when not in the studio. You tell me you'd rather reference a {censored}ty compressed mp3 file when working on major label mixes vs a high quality CD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tubescreamer316 Posted October 7, 2010 Members Share Posted October 7, 2010 SAL, I'm curious to hear your thoughts on my post like 47 pages back. This is something I've been thinking about a lot lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members crowguitar Posted October 7, 2010 Members Share Posted October 7, 2010 everytime we try to find an answer, someone else finds or makes the tech to steal it from under our feet by the time we get it figured out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoboPimp Posted October 7, 2010 Members Share Posted October 7, 2010 tell that to engineers who routinely make rough mix copies to listen when not in the studio. You tell me you'd rather reference a {censored}ty compressed mp3 file when working on major label mixes vs a high quality CD?CDs are compressed too you can set the compression level on MP3s c'mon pops, keep up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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