Members Mind_Riot89 Posted June 15, 2011 Members Share Posted June 15, 2011 I've made a little room on my board and calculated that I could fit a Line 6 DL4 on there, as well as power it with my PP2. Just interested in whether it's still considered a contender in the delay world considering the number of other multi-delay boxes that are out there now. Also, I love trails so I would be using the buffered bypass; how is it? Does it affect the tone in any way? Thanks y'all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Loobs Posted June 15, 2011 Members Share Posted June 15, 2011 I think there's way better sounding delays, but I love it as a looper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ambientnoize Posted June 15, 2011 Members Share Posted June 15, 2011 hit it! they're going especially cheap nowadays. The DL4 was my first delay pedal, and i don't think it'll ever leave my board.. loads of great usable sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members claytonjohn18 Posted June 15, 2011 Members Share Posted June 15, 2011 I think there's way better sounding delays, but I love it as a looper. This is the exact post I was going to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jordannott Posted June 15, 2011 Members Share Posted June 15, 2011 love the lo res. i'd buy it just for that. you can use it for anything. just wish it had dotted eights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mueller Posted June 15, 2011 Members Share Posted June 15, 2011 it's absolutely still good. people on this forum are a bit...erm..jaded or biased or some other word i can't think of toward the new shiny feature-full pedals. I'm not saying the newer delays aren't good or even better, but for what you'd pay for a DL-4 now ($150 easy) it's a great deal, it's totally functional, and can make some really good sounds. plus the looper is too much fun, and it's still one of the easiest to use IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TomCTC Posted June 16, 2011 Members Share Posted June 16, 2011 Yup, they're great loopers with some good delay sounds in there as well. Can't go wrong if it's used and cheap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LauraPalmer Posted June 16, 2011 Members Share Posted June 16, 2011 would buy another, but the mono output only does lead to some volume loss. Also I find the mix knob less responsive than I'd like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChuckNorris1982 Posted June 16, 2011 Members Share Posted June 16, 2011 love the lo res. i'd buy it just for that. you can use it for anything. just wish it had dotted eights. I worked out a trick to get you some dotted 8ths. Will work in stereo but you'll only get your dotted 8ths out of one channel, so it's best in mono. Try this, you'll thank me for it. Go to stereo delay mode. The tap switch sets the tempo of the left delay time (also accessible on delay time pot). The tweak and tweez pots set the relative delay time and feedback on the right channel. Tweak the right channel delay time to give you that quarter note + dotted 8th note gallop. If I recall correctly, it's around 11 o'clock on the dial but you have to dial it in JUST RIGHT - it's very sensitive. now you have the left side putting out quarter notes and the right side putting out dotted 8ths. When you re-tap the tempo, the dotted 8th stays relative to the quarter note. If you didn't really want quarter notes too then set the left channel feedback to minimum - you'll get one repeat, but at least you won't have that galloping quarter note + dotted 8th note U2 thing going on. Save that {censored}er before you manage to knock the right delay dial out of sync, because it's a ballache to get them to sync up in the first place. It's not a perfect workaround, but it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Firebrand Posted June 16, 2011 Members Share Posted June 16, 2011 Its a great pedal. Nothing beats it for feature at its pricepoint. Go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dap99 Posted June 16, 2011 Members Share Posted June 16, 2011 I don't need one, but I've seen them for $125 lately on CL. If it gets around $100, I may just have to hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lolque? Posted June 16, 2011 Members Share Posted June 16, 2011 hit it! they're going especially cheap nowadays. The DL4 was my first delay pedal, and i don't think it'll ever leave my board.. loads of great usable sounds. This. It does everything I need. Now a days there are "better" delays, but it doesn't make it any less of a solid, solid unit. The buffered bypass isnt even really noticeable with my setup. They're super cheap in the used market now actually, saw one for $90 the other day in a shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members King Rat Posted June 16, 2011 Members Share Posted June 16, 2011 yeah still good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ambient Posted June 16, 2011 Members Share Posted June 16, 2011 They haven't changed if that's what you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mind_Riot89 Posted June 16, 2011 Author Members Share Posted June 16, 2011 Thanks for the views so far. But have any of the other, more recent multi-function delays (DD-20, Nova Delay, TimeFactor et al.) overtaken it in functionality/price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members King Rat Posted June 16, 2011 Members Share Posted June 16, 2011 when i wanted a big delay to do everything... it came down to the line 6 could give me 3 different settings and tap tempo for them all.. none of the others like the dd-20 timefactor etc can do that. thats why i got the dl4 and dont regret it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChuckNorris1982 Posted June 16, 2011 Members Share Posted June 16, 2011 What? The DD-20 gives you 5 presets with tap tempo and the Timefactor gives you 100 presets with tap tempo. The biggest downfall of the DL4 is the implementation of the tap tempo - you cannot tap the tempo when the pedal is bypassed, which is a {censored}ty feature indeed. You have to activate your preset before you can tap the tempo in, which means unless you keep it in a true bypass loop your delays are gonna be off tempo for a few seconds if you turn it on mid song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mind_Riot89 Posted June 16, 2011 Author Members Share Posted June 16, 2011 What? The DD-20 gives you 5 presets with tap tempo and the Timefactor gives you 100 presets with tap tempo.The biggest downfall of the DL4 is the implementation of the tap tempo - you cannot tap the tempo when the pedal is bypassed, which is a {censored}ty feature indeed. You have to activate your preset before you can tap the tempo in, which means unless you keep it in a true bypass loop your delays are gonna be off tempo for a few seconds if you turn it on mid song. That is indeed poor design. Might be a deal-breaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Lou-Dog Posted June 16, 2011 Members Share Posted June 16, 2011 Yeah, i think i'm gonna pick one up soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Small Stone Posted June 16, 2011 Members Share Posted June 16, 2011 I just scored one on teh 'bay for 97$. It has a broken switch, but I managed to get it shipped directly to our friend drasp... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members King Rat Posted June 16, 2011 Members Share Posted June 16, 2011 What? The DD-20 gives you 5 presets with tap tempo and the Timefactor gives you 100 presets with tap tempo.The biggest downfall of the DL4 is the implementation of the tap tempo - you cannot tap the tempo when the pedal is bypassed, which is a {censored}ty feature indeed. You have to activate your preset before you can tap the tempo in, which means unless you keep it in a true bypass loop your delays are gonna be off tempo for a few seconds if you turn it on mid song. just meant has three buttons for the 3 presets.. no need to scroll through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members crowquill Posted June 16, 2011 Members Share Posted June 16, 2011 I worked out a trick to get you some dotted 8ths. Will work in stereo but you'll only get your dotted 8ths out of one channel, so it's best in mono. Try this, you'll thank me for it. Go to stereo delay mode. The tap switch sets the tempo of the left delay time (also accessible on delay time pot). The tweak and tweez pots set the relative delay time and feedback on the right channel. Tweak the right channel delay time to give you that quarter note + dotted 8th note gallop. If I recall correctly, it's around 11 o'clock on the dial but you have to dial it in JUST RIGHT - it's very sensitive. now you have the left side putting out quarter notes and the right side putting out dotted 8ths. When you re-tap the tempo, the dotted 8th stays relative to the quarter note. If you didn't really want quarter notes too then set the left channel feedback to minimum - you'll get one repeat, but at least you won't have that galloping quarter note + dotted 8th note U2 thing going on. Save that {censored}er before you manage to knock the right delay dial out of sync, because it's a ballache to get them to sync up in the first place. It's not a perfect workaround, but it works. Why not just tap in the dotted eight? I just count "1 & 2 &" and tap on the "1" and the second "&" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members spoonie g Posted June 16, 2011 Members Share Posted June 16, 2011 love the lo res. i'd buy it just for that. you can use it for anything. just wish it had dotted eights. That's what I always ended up on. Love the dark artifacts and haven't found anything to match it for grunginess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChuckNorris1982 Posted June 16, 2011 Members Share Posted June 16, 2011 Why not just tap in the dotted eight? I just count "1 & 2 &" and tap on the "1" and the second "&" I can do either, I was just trying to offer a suggestion. I do prefer having a dotted 8th setting though, it's more natural to just tap quarter notes, and the more taps you enter the more accurate it gets because it averages out all the taps. Allows you to focus on your playing instead of your tapping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thom Posted June 17, 2011 Members Share Posted June 17, 2011 The lack of a dotted 8 preset or the little tap tempo draw back never bothered me. The DL-4 might have lost it's hipster credibility because of all the zillions of sweet sounding booteek delay pedlulz that came out over the last years... But as far as I know none of them offer all the features of the DL-4. It's overal sound quality supposedly can't compete with that of pedals like the SuperDelay...But they cost A LOT more and all lack at least one or two cool features that the DL-4 has. My only smile gripe with my DL-4: The slight volume sag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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