Members notjonahbutnoah Posted September 28, 2012 Members Share Posted September 28, 2012 Preamble:Was a buddy's house who has a 5150 and a board with a stock TS9, Dyna Comp, SMMH, Boss Chorus (newer), MXR 10 Band, Stock Crybaby, and something else I think. He was kinda down on his tone, but is playin a damn 5150>412 at bedroom levels. I suggested cranking it and so he did. It sounded better but not great. He let me play and dial stuff in and the first thing I did was kill all the FX. Got it sounding really really nice. Then I noticed I hadn't turned the comp off. Switched it off and whoa. Bad bad tone. Tried to get it where it was without the comp but just couldn't. That little dyna comp was great sounding. Turned raspy fizzy crap-stortion into nice, full, tight, usable tone. SOThat got me thinking, maybe a compressor would be a good idea for my board instead of a buffer. Then I'd have an extra point of adjustment and it could potentially improve my tone. I REALLY like my tone now, but I mean... perhaps I'd like it even more. Think it would help things in a band mix? I'd be using it similarly to how I use the buffer. Just always on to make 35 ft of cable and a giant true bypass board not sound like {censored} clean. I should think I'd put it first, right were the buffer is (top left)I'd be looking at the Malekko since A) It's tiny and I wouldn't have to rewire anything, direct replacement, easy... and B) I believe it is dyna-comp based, is it not?So what say you? Silly idea? Pointless? Good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members caeman Posted September 28, 2012 Members Share Posted September 28, 2012 Not pointless. If you want a buffer, and you want the features of a comp, why not combine the two functions and make that space useful. This (http://www.ovnilab.com/) is my source for all things compressors. If it ain't reviewed there, I wait. If you are wanting TINY, like 1590A type, then check out the "A Small List" thread for comps in that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vulcaniza P Posted September 28, 2012 Members Share Posted September 28, 2012 i messed with the malekko comp it was way cool...do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members macadood Posted September 28, 2012 Members Share Posted September 28, 2012 the '76 dyna comp reissue is great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members notjonahbutnoah Posted September 28, 2012 Author Members Share Posted September 28, 2012 Ok, so it's sounding like I'm not insane here. This is always reassuring. Think I might. I mean, it should do what the buffer does plus improve sustain and tighten things up a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members caeman Posted September 28, 2012 Members Share Posted September 28, 2012 Any pedal that is ON is buffering your signal. As for your sanity, we only comment on the idea...not your sanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members crohny Posted September 28, 2012 Members Share Posted September 28, 2012 Swap it for a Black Arts tone works Black Forest and be rad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TravvyBear Posted September 28, 2012 Members Share Posted September 28, 2012 Go for it. I love compressors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members notjonahbutnoah Posted September 28, 2012 Author Members Share Posted September 28, 2012 crohny pls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members notjonahbutnoah Posted September 28, 2012 Author Members Share Posted September 28, 2012 crohny pls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vulcaniza P Posted September 28, 2012 Members Share Posted September 28, 2012 don't forget bout the mooer comp..http://www.mooeraudio.com/en/ProductInfo.asp?id=46 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members notjonahbutnoah Posted September 28, 2012 Author Members Share Posted September 28, 2012 don't forget bout the mooer comp..http://www.mooeraudio.com/en/ProductInfo.asp?id=46 Interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members notjonahbutnoah Posted September 28, 2012 Author Members Share Posted September 28, 2012 WTF everywhere is sold out of the malekko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ItchyFingers Posted September 28, 2012 Members Share Posted September 28, 2012 Do it - your compressor will be your "always on" pedal, seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members caeman Posted September 28, 2012 Members Share Posted September 28, 2012 Malekko pedals are highly sought-after. Used, they sell very quickly. I have two Guyatone ST-2 comps and I am very happy with the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members notjonahbutnoah Posted September 28, 2012 Author Members Share Posted September 28, 2012 Found one. Some shop in Cali. Bought'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Prince Squid Posted September 28, 2012 Members Share Posted September 28, 2012 It sounds to me like you want en Eq more than a compressor... Where do you see the place for the compressor in your chain and what do you want to achieve, soundwise? If you don't need more compression (and you shouldn't need more of it with the dirt on anyway), I don't really see the point for it. If you want to cut through the band's molasses, you need more mids, an Eq will deliever that. Or your Elements. In my humble opinion: No. Don't. But get another delay, you can't have too much delay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members notjonahbutnoah Posted September 28, 2012 Author Members Share Posted September 28, 2012 It sounds to me like you want en Eq more than a compressor... Where do you see the place for the compressor in your chain and what do you want to achieve, soundwise? If you don't need more compression (and you shouldn't need more of it with the dirt on anyway), I don't really see the point for it. If you want to cut through the band's molasses, you need more mids, an Eq will deliever that. Or your Elements. In my humble opinion: No. Don't. But get another delay, you can't have too much delay. Really I don't want anything special. I just wanna try it because I heard one make distortion sound really really good. Perhaps more sustain will result from it. If I don't like it, I shall sell it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Prince Squid Posted September 28, 2012 Members Share Posted September 28, 2012 Ok then, just do it. Get a DOD Milkbox. If you don't like that one, compression is not for you. No kidding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ben_allison Posted September 28, 2012 Members Share Posted September 28, 2012 Wait: you have the AMT volume pedal?! How is the sweep/tone? Also, is it active and always in your chain? If so, it's likely acting like a buffer making your dedicated buffer redundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members goodhonk Posted September 28, 2012 Members Share Posted September 28, 2012 caeman introduced this one to me the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members notjonahbutnoah Posted September 28, 2012 Author Members Share Posted September 28, 2012 Wait: you have the AMT volume pedal?!How is the sweep/tone?Also, is it active and always in your chain? If so, it's likely acting like a buffer making your dedicated buffer redundant. That's the wah. I believe the volume is yeller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DylanWilde Posted September 28, 2012 Members Share Posted September 28, 2012 I think if you already love your sound, adding more stuff isn't necessarily the way to go. I've learned over years of intense pedal nerdery that - contrary to GAS - simpler almost always equals better. Cluttering your sound with extra circuits and signal effects for subtle, and, sometimes, unnecessary tone "improvements" often ends up messing with your inherently great sound. And, as far as buffers go, you have one in your EHX SMMH if I'm not mistaken - so the stand alone one may be redundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members notjonahbutnoah Posted September 28, 2012 Author Members Share Posted September 28, 2012 I think if you already love your sound, adding more stuff isn't necessarily the way to go. I've learned over years of intense pedal nerdery that - contrary to GAS - simpler almost always equals better. Cluttering your sound with extra circuits and signal effects for subtle, and, sometimes, unnecessary tone "improvements" often ends up messing with your inherently great sound. And, as far as buffers go, you have one in your EHX SMMH if I'm not mistaken - so the stand alone one may be redundant. Oh I hear ya. Not sure if the SMMH is buffered or true, but I do know that without my standalone box, I experience a lot of high end loss/tone suck. The buffer in the 616 doesn't really do the trick either. The standalone one does. I've a/b/c tested various configs, and it does it's job well. Sounds identical to if I plug straight in with a 6' cable. I totally get what you mean about over-complicating, and I agree. However, really, I'll just be replacing one always on circuit with another so really, I will be roughly the same amount of circuits, though I'm sure the comp has more components than the buffer. I'll try it, if I don't like it, out it goes. Really though, my rig is QUITE simple. My gigging guitars have two pickups, a switch, and volume, then there's my board which I believe 3 pedals is the most I ever have on at any time and that's seldom, then my amp which is a single channel, clean, 50w head. No rack gear, nothing in the loop... pretty straight forwards. So, basically, I agree with you completely, but I just feel like tryin it out ya know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ben_allison Posted September 28, 2012 Members Share Posted September 28, 2012 That's the wah. I believe the volume is yeller. Racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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