Members justhearforther Posted October 28, 2012 Members Share Posted October 28, 2012 Particularly the Victorians, have any of you studied a bachelor of Music? Any particular places you recommend? I have all my preferences in and stuff, I'm just wondering if I've missed any places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members placebo62 Posted October 28, 2012 Members Share Posted October 28, 2012 VCA if you can get it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Seth Carmody Posted October 28, 2012 Members Share Posted October 28, 2012 Yeah definitely vca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members justhearforther Posted October 28, 2012 Author Members Share Posted October 28, 2012 VCA is my first preference, and I'd even choose the foundation program they have over getting into an actual Bachelor at other Unis, I was just wondering whether people agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members placebo62 Posted October 28, 2012 Members Share Posted October 28, 2012 depends on what you hope to do with the degree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members greeny23 Posted October 28, 2012 Members Share Posted October 28, 2012 i would avoid JMC Academy. i study Entertainment Business there and it's great for that but terrible for the other courses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Lou-Dog Posted October 29, 2012 Members Share Posted October 29, 2012 Hey man, I'm studying a Bachelor of Music currently, at Monash University. It's a great course, and we're just about to have a multi-million dollar new music department built. As far as the VCA goes, it's still a great course, but there are very few places available. Monash has most of the same instrumental music teachers, and great lecturers as well as two jazz musicians who are professors (which the VCA doesn't have), Paul Grabowsky and Tony Gould. I play with a bunch of guys from the VCA, who went to the VCA secondary school, did the bachelor there, and then finished honours last year, and they loved the course. They're also really impressed with the quality of the students coming out of Monash, as well as the teachers/visiting artists etc., we've had workshops with John Abercrombie, Jim Black, Aaron Goldstein, and Hermeto Pascaol (among others I can't remember) since last year when i started my degree. Monash also has a partner ship with NYU, where you can go and stay there for a month and have a short course and play with the NYU guys, as well as learn of Scofield, Bernstien etc. VCA is a great course, but don't rule out other oppurtunities! If you feel like you're not up to speed completely with your theory/aural skils, and need more experience playing jazz, then I'd do the VCA foundation course (i know people who've done it and they loved it, but they did it when it was free.), but if you feel relatively comfortable with that stuff and don't get into the VCA (their intake is only 30 or so students), I would strongly reccomend going to Monash! I'm getting lessons off of a guy called Steve Magnusson this year, who's a phenomenal guitar player and a great teacher. Here's a clip of him I like. You might not like it if you don't like free leaning jazz though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Lou-Dog Posted October 29, 2012 Members Share Posted October 29, 2012 Hey man, I'm studying a Bachelor of Music currently, at Monash University. It's a great course, and we're just about to have a multi-million dollar new music department built. As far as the VCA goes, it's still a great course, but there are very few places available. Monash has most of the same instrumental music teachers, and great lecturers as well as two jazz musicians who are professors (which the VCA doesn't have), Paul Grabowsky and Tony Gould. I play with a bunch of guys from the VCA, who went to the VCA secondary school, did the bachelor there, and then finished honours last year, and they loved the course. They're also really impressed with the quality of the students coming out of Monash, as well as the teachers/visiting artists etc., we've had workshops with John Abercrombie, Jim Black, Aaron Goldstein, and Hermeto Pascaol (among others I can't remember) since last year when i started my degree. Monash also has a partner ship with NYU, where you can go and stay there for a month and have a short course and play with the NYU guys, as well as learn of Scofield, Bernstien etc. VCA is a great course, but don't rule out other oppurtunities! If you feel like you're not up to speed completely with your theory/aural skils, and need more experience playing jazz, then I'd do the VCA foundation course (i know people who've done it and they loved it, but they did it when it was free.), but if you feel relatively comfortable with that stuff and don't get into the VCA (their intake is only 30 or so students), I would strongly reccomend going to Monash! I'm getting lessons off of a guy called Steve Magnusson this year, who's a phenomenal guitar player and a great teacher. Here's a clip of him I like. You might not like it if you don't like free leaning jazz though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members justhearforther Posted November 3, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 3, 2012 Yeah I've applied for Monash and payed for the auditions and stuff but I live in the west suburbs and would prefer not to move, but if I need to then I definitely can, my dad lives in Springvale so it's not really an issue. How heavy is the Jazz influence in all the different courses? As far as I can tell it's either Jazz or Classical and like I have no issue with Jazz and would willingly learn it, but it seems like to get an education as a guitarist I need to either become a Jazz guitarist or a Classical guitarist and that's kind of worrying. I'm still all for it because learning any genre will aid my playing, but then it's also slightly worrying because I've only looked at Jazz as far as VCE Music has required so it's unlikely that I'll get in anywhere. I dunno, I think I'm just worrying too much, I know a guy that was doing a course at NMIT and he loved it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Lou-Dog Posted November 4, 2012 Members Share Posted November 4, 2012 Originally Posted by justhearforther Yeah I've applied for Monash and payed for the auditions and stuff but I live in the west suburbs and would prefer not to move, but if I need to then I definitely can, my dad lives in Springvale so it's not really an issue. How heavy is the Jazz influence in all the different courses? As far as I can tell it's either Jazz or Classical and like I have no issue with Jazz and would willingly learn it, but it seems like to get an education as a guitarist I need to either become a Jazz guitarist or a Classical guitarist and that's kind of worrying. I'm still all for it because learning any genre will aid my playing, but then it's also slightly worrying because I've only looked at Jazz as far as VCE Music has required so it's unlikely that I'll get in anywhere. I dunno, I think I'm just worrying too much, I know a guy that was doing a course at NMIT and he loved it. Out of the Bachelor of Music courses, Monash and the VCA are pretty much entirely jazz. Mind you most of the students don't only play Jazz out of Uni, I play next to no Jazz but use a lot of the stuff I've been working on at Uni in the music I play. The NMIT Bachelor course is more Popular music orientated! I don't really know anything about any other courses there may be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members justhearforther Posted November 5, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 5, 2012 When you were choosing causes, were you playing Jazz? And what made you choose Monash? I'm glad I found someone that actually does one of these courses, primary sources are so much better than the crappy descriptions online, where the VCA website doesn't even mention the word Jazz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Lou-Dog Posted November 6, 2012 Members Share Posted November 6, 2012 Originally Posted by justhearforther When you were choosing causes, were you playing Jazz? And what made you choose Monash? I'm glad I found someone that actually does one of these courses, primary sources are so much better than the crappy descriptions online, where the VCA website doesn't even mention the word Jazz. I was playing a little bit of Jazz.... I chose Monash because I got in! The VCA only took 29 people the year I auditioned, there was probably 500 applicants. Monash took probably 50 from the same number of applicants and I got in there. I only auditioned for those two courses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members justhearforther Posted November 8, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 8, 2012 Originally Posted by The Lou-Dog I was playing a little bit of Jazz.... I chose Monash because I got in! The VCA only took 29 people the year I auditioned, there was probably 500 applicants. Monash took probably 50 from the same number of applicants and I got in there. I only auditioned for those two courses. And why did you apply at, and only at, those two? I'm sorry if this is annoying, but it's really useful because if I get accepted into multiple courses I need to choose which course I want, whereas my preferences just involved applying for everything I could. I didn't think there was a hope in hell of me choosing Monash, but you've vastly changed that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Lou-Dog Posted November 11, 2012 Members Share Posted November 11, 2012 Originally Posted by justhearforther And why did you apply at, and only at, those two? I'm sorry if this is annoying, but it's really useful because if I get accepted into multiple courses I need to choose which course I want, whereas my preferences just involved applying for everything I could. I didn't think there was a hope in hell of me choosing Monash, but you've vastly changed that. Because from the people I had see perform and people I knew who were at musical institutions, these were the two stand out. The quality of the players from Monash and VCA made me really want to go there, to meet people and play with them. The other institutions not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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