Members orangesix Posted December 22, 2012 Members Share Posted December 22, 2012 Vitalogy is the only PJ album worth a damn. plus, they inspired a ton of crappy music.SP put out a few amazing albums, but they are mostly remembered for their MTV singles and Billy being annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members oinkbanana Posted December 22, 2012 Members Share Posted December 22, 2012 Why don't we have polls? why isn't this a poll? at least we'd get a tally of where we're at.SP - 37PJ - 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hugbot Posted December 22, 2012 Members Share Posted December 22, 2012 I expected to like SP live and was surprised that I didn't and didn't expect to like PJ live and was surprised when I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gambit Posted December 22, 2012 Members Share Posted December 22, 2012 was always more of a pumpkins fan.. until about 2000 when they played their last ever UK gig saw this recently though, and it's a VERY interesting intellectual discussion (or rant depending on your dislike of Corgan) on the music industry, what media throws at you as an ageing musician and general philosophy of Billy Corgan.. which, despite me not liking what he's doing now with the pumpkins name, gives a very fair explanation of his view on the whole issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members arthurdent'd Posted December 22, 2012 Members Share Posted December 22, 2012 who cares what Billy Corgan thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gambit Posted December 22, 2012 Members Share Posted December 22, 2012 Originally Posted by arthurdent'd who cares what Billy Corgan thinks. maybe you could listen to what someone who's been in the music business for 30 years has to say and learn something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members arthurdent'd Posted December 22, 2012 Members Share Posted December 22, 2012 no thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gambit Posted December 22, 2012 Members Share Posted December 22, 2012 fair enough. other people might.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members melx Posted December 22, 2012 Members Share Posted December 22, 2012 Originally Posted by CicadaSilence SP got worse with age, PJ got better. Totally agree, I never liked PJ back in the day (and still don't really like 10 much) but as the years have passed they have become more and more appealing and well, just turned into a really great rock band. I lost interest in SP after Siamese Dream and that was a long long time ago now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Beyer160 Posted December 22, 2012 Members Share Posted December 22, 2012 Originally Posted by LSDis4me The correct answer here is Came here to post this. The talented guys from Green River went to Mudhoney, the corporate whores started Pearl Jam. PJ were the Nickelback of the early '90s, Billy Corgan is just a whiny bitch . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AngryGoldfish Posted December 22, 2012 Members Share Posted December 22, 2012 I remember the first time I heard Pearl Jam's Ten: I was a young teenager with a pocket full of pennies that my grandparents gave me while I was on holiday in England. I was at Asda and started picking up random CD's that looked cool. It was an impulse purchase. I listened to that record so much that on the home in Dublin, I spent the rest of my money on a load of other Pearl Jam records. I don't really listen to them any more, but that's not because I don't like their music. I just changed.Smashing Pumpkins, on the other hand, were a band that I knew I liked but didn't have any of records on disc. Friends had given me crappy mp3's, way back when they were first hitting the market and appearing as reasonable alternatives to CD and Mini-Disc, but the quality wasn't great and that left a bad impression on me. I enjoyed their music a lot, but I never felt connected to it as strongly as I did with Pearl Jam. I remember playing Counter Strike listening to Pearl Jam. There are now certain maps that I link them to, and the same goes for Muse and Smashing Pumpkins.I've always appreciated Pearl Jam as a band, while Smashing Pumpkins were the original hipsters and weren't anywhere near as naturally cool or inspirational, at least for me. The whole disbanding wasn't very attractive either, and the transphobic talk from Billy Corgan directed towards Devi Ever was something I did not support. I never liked Billy Corgan. He always had an air of superiority about him. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Expressway to yr Skull Posted December 22, 2012 Members Share Posted December 22, 2012 Billy has always been a mouthy idiot. Still prefer SP by a mile though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bananashotgun Posted December 23, 2012 Members Share Posted December 23, 2012 smashing pumpkins by a mile. siamese dream is the best engineered album ever. enjoyed mellon collie, pisces and gish a lot. didn't really listen to anything after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tribute2Johnny Posted December 23, 2012 Members Share Posted December 23, 2012 Originally Posted by b_nehpets fuzz>patchouli this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Folky_Grunge Posted December 23, 2012 Members Share Posted December 23, 2012 Originally Posted by melx Totally agree, I never liked PJ back in the day (and still don't really like 10 much) but as the years have passed they have become more and more appealing and well, just turned into a really great rock band. I lost interest in SP after Siamese Dream and that was a long long time ago now. Most people that are really into Pearl Jam aren't into Ten very much; it's actually kind of interesting - most casual fans or people who don't like them think Ten is the best thing they've done, but few dedicated fans consider it their favorite. It's probably the reason so many in this thread are calling them bland, it's certainly kind of a bland sounding record (especially in the production). Their post-Ten stuff is much more interesting, and they definitely matured (Ten was recorded less than a year after the band had formed) into a great band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members iodine74 Posted December 23, 2012 Members Share Posted December 23, 2012 apples and oranges imo musically. It'd be like comparing U2 to REM.personality-wise... I'm old enough to know it's not worth putting any thought into what 'rockstars' think or how they present themselves.Fingerboard acrobatics -- McCready > CorganRiffage BillyChord Progression madness Stone"Composer" vs "songwriters" Corgan > SP% of material I like compared to total catalog...SP probably edges out and the stuff I like, I like more than the stuff I like from PJOne of the things that attracts me to music is the power and dynamics it presents.. the emotion and for that:Eddie's Voice vs. Billy's Angels/Demon's guitar work... too close to call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members orangesix Posted December 23, 2012 Members Share Posted December 23, 2012 So what happened between billy and devi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Krank'N Posted December 23, 2012 Members Share Posted December 23, 2012 Originally Posted by Dr.Picklebottom if you spell each backwards you would get 'snikpmup gnihsams and maj lraep'. these letters transposed would allow one to spell 'Spasms Humping Kin' > 'Maple Jar'. which is best- who the F wants a maple jar? not me. smashing pumpkins takes this one. "Pumpin gash-skin or leper jam" ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members i3oosted Posted December 23, 2012 Members Share Posted December 23, 2012 This isn't even a debate, PJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 100 dollar cars Posted December 23, 2012 Members Share Posted December 23, 2012 pearl jam. why is this even a debate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members yyyames Posted December 23, 2012 Members Share Posted December 23, 2012 Originally Posted by oinkbanana how does jimmy chamberlin make it look so easy.. that man is a monster. did any band in the 90's even have a better drummer? Danny Carey is pretty good at ze drums. Not sure about the people into all the "yeahs and hee hee's" in the peal jams but to each his own. It's funny to see people trashing SP records from the 90s. Whatever if you dont like the way someone sings they did sell more records than your band ever will and put out a couple defining records of the 90s. I still meet people that hate the Beatles though. Madness I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members spoonie g Posted December 23, 2012 Members Share Posted December 23, 2012 dualism is for chumps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members starmansam Posted December 23, 2012 Members Share Posted December 23, 2012 they both have like 4 good records. they both rock pretty hard and the both have their share of flaws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members turnip Posted December 23, 2012 Members Share Posted December 23, 2012 Originally Posted by arthurdent'd But seriously, Depeche Mode sucks almost as much as the Beach Boys. YOU SHUT YOUR FILTHY PIRATE WHORE MOUTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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